Is Delta a PFT outfit?

[BILL LUMBERG]

Yeah Wave,

What did your parents shell out for your type rating?? Just askin'

 

[Mike man]

SWA pays for the hotel the entire training period; no Tx income taxes withheld, unless of course you are a Tx resident. If I remember correctly they also pay for a hotel on the front and back side of your IOE, but don't quote me on that one.

Of course since Texas does not have a state income tax...some one might frown on that. But back to the point...Delta expects a new hire to pay for their own hotel during sim? How does the anniversary pay raise thing work now, do you get your 2nd year raise on your anniversary date or do you have to add a few months from when all in your class has completed training and IOE during new hire training? How does that 401(k) matching work for the old NWA guys now?

 

[GogglesPisano]

How does the anniversary pay raise thing work now, do you get your 2nd year raise on your anniversary date or do you have to add a few months from when all in your class has completed training and IOE during new hire training?

You go to Year 2 pay 365 days after your DOH.

 

[MILPILOT17]

Of course since Texas does not have a state income tax...some one might frown on that. But back to the point...Delta expects a new hire to pay for their own hotel during sim? How does the anniversary pay raise thing work now, do you get your 2nd year raise on your anniversary date or do you have to add a few months from when all in your class has completed training and IOE during new hire training? How does that 401(k) matching work for the old NWA guys now?

Excellent point! Thanks for the correction.

 

[MILPILOT17]

How much is that 737 type?

Mine was free. Thanks!

 

[GogglesPisano]

Mine was free. Thanks!

That's great. Glad to hear it. Is it safe to say that situation describes most new-hires at SWA?

 

[MCDU]

It comes down to this. If you have to pay part of your training costs like housing while you are employed, it is pay for training.

M

 

[Dumb Pilot]

It is sad how we have allowed our career to be eroded and disrespected here in the U.S. not even in third world countries and very small outfits worldwide companies would even dream of not providing you with accommodation and transportation during training, but the saddest of all is that some of you are even defending this practice as "business as usual" the industry has exploited 9/11 and the economic downturn so masterfully and for so many years that a new generation of pilots have grown into believing that this is the norm. By some of the responses justifying these practices here I have to say "bravo to management" you have over the years perfected the art of koolaid making

 

[say again]

Did companies make you pay in the "golden years"?

 

[tomgoodman]

The Good Life

Did companies make you pay in the "golden years"?

Yes (DAL - 1979). We rented apartment space in a questionable neighborhood near the airport. But $750 per month was worth a lot more way back then.

 

[waveflyer]

Yeah Wave,

What did your parents shell out for your type rating?? Just askin'

Zero- I've been a grown man for a while.
Let me qualify my above statements: senior DALPA pilots are worldclass sellouts-
Hopefully the new blood that seems to get it will not be corrupted by the pull the ladder up crowd at the top

 

[Midge]

Is it true that during training you have to pay for your own hotel? So, in essence you are paying part of the training costs that most airlines cover.To me it sounds like Delta makes you pay part of your training cost.

M

Wait a second. This post coming from a guy who works for Gulfstream Academy?
Wow!

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Wait a second. This post coming from a guy who works for Gulfstream Academy?
Wow!

It comes from a guy who failed the Delta MMPI.

 

[Flyer1015]

It comes from a guy who failed the Delta MMPI.

Lets be honest, that's not saying a whole lot. That MMPI test is BS, and plenty of good people have been washed out because of it.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Lets be honest, that's not saying a whole lot. That MMPI test is BS, and plenty of good people have been washed out because of it.

A better test would be to see who can hold their liquor better. :beer:

Overnights can be tough!

 

[Quimby]

It is sad how we have allowed our career to be eroded and disrespected here in the U.S. not even in third world countries and very small outfits worldwide companies would even dream of not providing you with accommodation and transportation during training, but the saddest of all is that some of you are even defending this practice as "business as usual" the industry has exploited 9/11 and the economic downturn so masterfully and for so many years that a new generation of pilots have grown into believing that this is the norm. By some of the responses justifying these practices here I have to say "bravo to management" you have over the years perfected the art of koolaid making

World's longest sentence?

Well said.

 

[JohnQ]

World's longest sentence?

Well said.

test....

 

[contrail67]

Or like the United plan..pay for your own hotel during the ENTIRE training event!

OR, the Southwest plan and pay for your entire type rating before you can start class....unless you had it before or the military card you play.

Each airline has something it seems, not bashing the Southwest thing at all...if you have to "buy" the type to get someone to hire you then at least you have that option. :laugh:

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

Delta pays for the first week, I believe.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Lets be honest, that's not saying a whole lot. That MMPI test is BS, and plenty of good people have been washed out because of it.

The 07-08 round it seemed to work just fine.

The test "range" was apparently tweaked this last round, causing a couple good guys that we both know to get nuked.

The head of hiring has since been replaced.