Base Realignment for Pincha-nickel!

[RJLoser]

The company Memo has been removed.

 

[xjhawk]

This sounds like a mess.

 

[RJLoser]

Officially a displacement.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

A displacement without vacancies (or less vacancies then people displaced) means a furlough.

A displacement with vacancies is..... a displacement.

 

[Smarta$$]

Should be interesting. Probably a lot of people bidding back to FO to stay in base, additional FO displacements because of downgrades, upgrades with extended training events (to replace the voluntary (not really) downgrades, and dozens of additional call in honest events per day because people can't get to their sh!ty new domiciles.....

This should be GOOD entertainment. And sadly, a lot of unneeded pain and hardship (yet again) for Pinnacle pilots.

 

[RJLoser]

You think? I don't believe people would go back to the right seat.

 

[i fly boxes]

Its going to be interesting now that it is officially a displacement. 100 memphis pilots will no longer be memphis pilots. Those who base hop will probably take the displacement but the commute from MEM to DTW is only 4 flights a day and they area always full and the MEM JFK sucks and then you factor in the upcoming SLI and you have some big decisions to make. I think that JFK will be filled with people wanting to upgrade, and DTW will have a lot of MSP captains who were bumped. I worry about the junior DTW caps as well who were just starting to get off of reserve after 3 agonizing years of pinnacle reserve, will they get pushed back farther now?

 

[sinkrate]

Its going to be interesting now that it is officially a displacement. 100 memphis pilots will no longer be memphis pilots. Those who base hop will probably take the displacement but the commute from MEM to DTW is only 4 flights a day and they area always full and the MEM JFK sucks and then you factor in the upcoming SLI and you have some big decisions to make. I think that JFK will be filled with people wanting to upgrade, and DTW will have a lot of MSP captains who were bumped. I worry about the junior DTW caps as well who were just starting to get off of reserve after 3 agonizing years of pinnacle reserve, will they get pushed back farther now?

The bottom 10 or 15 ATL CA's are at risk too. A number of mid seniority MEM CA's that commute will consider going to ATL for the relatively easier commute plus the expense check. A number of cities are down to just two flights a day to MEM. Expect to see a small number of CA's hang out long enough for the expense check - and then quit. A small number of CA's in both MEM and MSP will bid back to FO to avoid a nasty commute. They will mostly be senior enough to hold just about any CA vacancy that comes open in the near future. The wild card is the ATL FO seat. Most of them at the bottom won't be paying attention when they get bumped out of ATL. It won't surprise me to see a couple of 200 CA's bid ATL FO so they can hold a line.

 

[bri5150]

Wow, things must have been REALLY bad at Pinnacle if a simple realignment is creating such a stir. *roll eyes* Welcome to Mesaba's life since I got here 6 years ago.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Wow, things must have been REALLY bad at Pinnacle if a simple realignment is creating such a stir. *roll eyes* Welcome to Mesaba's life since I got here 6 years ago.

No kidding, we have just as big if not bigger mess in progress with the pending closing of DTW Saabs and LGA opening (with NO nonstop flights between LGA and any current base on US Airways to move reserves there if needed for this ramp up)

 

[sinkrate]

No kidding, we have just as big if not bigger mess in progress with the pending closing of DTW Saabs and LGA opening (with NO nonstop flights between LGA and any current base on US Airways to move reserves there if needed for this ramp up)

I think the difference is the seniority of the pilots involved. By the time these senior pilots use their 'bumping' rights this could easily see 200 to 250 pilots, or 20 percent of the PCL group, change seats and or domiciles. None of them will be where they want to be.

 

[asayankee]

There has been a long running rumor of an ASA MEM base. We're constantly DH'ing crews back and forth. Could this all be connected?

Disclaimer: I'm not rooting for it, am happy in my current base, and in no way wish anybody gets involuntarily displaced.

 

[RJLoser]

ASA caused all of this

 

[Smarta$$]

You think? I don't believe people would go back to the right seat.

Yes, some will definitely bid right seat.

 

[dustrpilot]

Yes, some will definitely bid right seat.

It's happened before. I did it once. Commuting sucked then, I can't imagine how bad it would be now.

 

[higney85]

There has been a long running rumor of an ASA MEM base. We're constantly DH'ing crews back and forth. Could this all be connected?

Disclaimer: I'm not rooting for it, am happy in my current base, and in no way wish anybody gets involuntarily displaced.

We can't blame the pilots, but if you guys were to leave MEM... we wouldn't have this problem.

 

[Thebadcat1313]

We can't blame the pilots, but if you guys were to leave MEM... we wouldn't have this problem.

LMAO! Touche, you pull your 16 900's from ATL, and we'll pull outta MEM? ;-).

 

[higney85]

LMAO! Touche, you pull your 16 900's from ATL, and we'll pull outta MEM? ;-).

a bunch of those guys commute out of MEM to begin with....

 

[asayankee]

ATL would be better without PCL, Comair, Skywest, Shuttle etc... CVG would be better for the Comair folks without CHQ, ASA, etc... ORD would be better for SKYW without XJT, ASA, etc...

I'm not really sure what your point is. The days of mainline only having one carrier dominate a base ended with the Comair strike. None of these decisions are made the pilots either. Also, and added benefit for regional management is to use that against us in negotiations. They'll park MESA or somebody else outside of your crew lounge and say "look who we have to be competitive with". It adds to the whipsaw.

 

[Smarta$$]

Wow, things must have been REALLY bad at Pinnacle if a simple realignment is creating such a stir. *roll eyes* Welcome to Mesaba's life since I got here 6 years ago.

Yeah, your right, this is the only thing Pinnacle pilots have had to deal with over the last 6 years.....

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