Base Realignment for Pincha-nickel!

[Flyer1015]

Shift from MSP/MEM to DTW/JFK. Asking for 50 crews to DTW and 25 to JFK. Expecting the shift out of MSP/MEM, but everyone is open to bid and ge whatever their seniority will hold.

 

[DoinTime]

Shift from MSP/MEM to DTW/JFK. Asking for 50 crews to DTW and 25 to JFK. Expecting the shift out of MSP/MEM, but everyone is open to bid and ge whatever their seniority will hold.

Everyone has already had a chance to move around the system where ever they want to go. This is going to be a straight displacement. Depending on the timeline of the SLI, it might pull XJ and Colgan pilots into the displacement as well.

 

[Airscrew]

Wait... What?

 

[Flyer1015]

No, this will be pre-SLI. The CA slots can't be displacement. Worse case scenario, current FOs will bid for the CA slots to upgrade. The displacement issue lies in the FOs. There may be some FOs who chose to go to ATL, DTW, or JFK. Otherwise, then it will be a displacement out of MEM MSP, inverse seniority order.

 

[DoinTime]

No, this will be pre-SLI. The CA slots can't be displacement. Worse case scenario, current FOs will bid for the CA slots to upgrade. The displacement issue lies in the FOs. There may be some FOs who chose to go to ATL, DTW, or JFK. Otherwise, then it will be a displacement out of MEM MSP, inverse seniority order.

The company memo indicates nothing along these lines.

 

[RJLoser]

The ca's will be upgrades. fo's will most likely be new hires.

 

[Carl_Spackler]

I don't like the fact that this will be done pre-sli. Junior 9e pilots in mem and msp will be forced out while the junior pilots at xj will not be affected.

 

[v1valarob]

I don't like the fact that this will be done pre-sli. Junior 9e pilots in mem and msp will be forced out while the junior pilots at xj will not be affected.

Junior pilots at XJ are staring at furlough. How is that fair to a XJ guy that has 9L pilots who are junior to them but are able to hold lines at 9L? How is it fair for a 9L pilot 10 away from upgrade to possibly soon be 200 away from upgrade?

This industry isnt fair.

 

[Raoul Duke]

life is not fair - and the world needs ditch diggers

 

[DoinTime]

The ca's will be upgrades. fo's will most likely be new hires.

That is unlikely.

 

[i fly boxes]

Just so you guys know, this is not a displacement. No one can lose their current seat if it is a vacancy. If 50 captains do not want to go to JFK/DTW, then FO's who do will. From the companies point of view, they are probably hoping that 50 captains from MSP and MEM want to go to DTW/JFK, then they will not backfill the spots that those captainst left in MEM/MSP.

Where this could turn into a displacement is if not enough captains leave msp and mem, thus allowing Fo's to bid those spots for upgrades. That would leave the company with too many captains still and then they would probably change the vacancy to displacements which would be bad for them becuase they would have to pay and bad for junior captians in mem/msp.

Another thing to think about when bidding though is where do you want to be pre sli? We probably will have another vacancy before then but you never know.

 

[cougarblue]

RJLOSER: The ca's will be upgrades. fo's will most likely be new hires.
i fly boxes:Just so you guys know, this is not a displacement. No one can lose their current seat

ok what you guys said is entirely inaccurate. This is a realignment/displacement (did you not read the memo?). There will no longer be 120 9e captains is msp, more like 70-80. this is not a vacancy to add additional captain positions at pinnacle, this is a realignment. Those msp/mem captains & FOs will be displaced (unfortunantly). It is true that those msp captains wont get downgraded if they are senior enough to hold a captain slot elsewhere... but yes lots of dispacements

 

[say again]

life is not fair - and the world needs ditch diggers

true, but it probably pays more

 

[RJLoser]

Cougar- the memo specifically states "vacancies will be created". Where did you see the word displacements?

-sounds like you are the one that did not read the memo

 

[DoinTime]

Cougar- the memo specifically states "vacancies will be created". Where did you see the word displacements?

-sounds like you are the one that did not read the memo

Read the next paragraph ding dong. Vacancies are a part of displacements. Those positions are being created to accommodate the pilots from the positions that have been reduced.