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Southwest announces four new routes from Newark


 By Ben Mutzabaugh, USA TODAY


A Southwest Airlines 737 at a gate at Long Island's MacArthur Airport near Islip, N.Y.


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By Ben Mutzabaugh, USA TODAY​



Southwest Airlines will beef up its presence in Newark Liberty this summer, adding four new nonstop routes on June 5. The carrier will fly three daily round-trip flights to Baltimore/Washington, three to Denver, two to Houston Hobby and two to Phoenix.


Southwest is not yet flying to Newark, but plans to inaugurate service there on March 27 with six daily round-trip flights to Chicago Midway and two to St. Louis. Once the June flights begin, Southwest will operate 18 daily departures from the New Jersey airport.


Southwest acquired 36 landing slots from United and Continental as part of their effort to win regulatory approval for their merger. A slot refers to a takeoff or landing, meaning 36 gives Southwest the option to add 18 daily round-trip flights. Newark is one of just a handful of U.S. airports where flight rights are restricted.
 
DEN, HOU, & PHX should do well but EWR-BWI.....Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Oh, that's gonna do exceptionally well. They might actualy get the last flight in sometime before the end of 2011.
 
Have fun with that! EWR the Sewark. Remember AT actually left EWR and sold the slots to CAL, but I guess now all of you can go back and enjoy it! You will really enjoy the arrival from the South, where NY App then gives you a 30 min tour of NJ at 180kts. But hey, YOU WANTED THOSE SLOTS, and NOW YOU GOT UM.

Regardless, YOU GUYS ARE FANTASICALLY COOL, and I MEAN THAT. Have a great one.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Is the General afraid he will be furloughed again when SWA kicks a little Delta Arse in ATL? I'm smelling a little fear from the boy.
 
maxblast72 said:
With a convenient connection on to BDA, SJU, AUA, CUN, MBJ, or any of the big Florida cities. Sounds like a winner to me.
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Not knocking the conection service, just the fact that the paxs will do better walking from EWR to BWI than flying. I don't see this route lasting very long. Anywhere is FL would be good but BWI?
 
And with this new service announcement, Southwest sadly announced the first flights in June from EWR to DEN, HOU, PHX, and BWI have been delayed due to weather and traffic.
 
Flyer1015 said:
And with this new service announcement, Southwest sadly announced the first flights in June from EWR to DEN, HOU, PHX, and BWI have been delayed due to weather and traffic.
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No, the outbounds are ok. Unfortunately, the inbounds are subject to the fact that EWR is in a Ground Stop, update at Thanksgiving.

I, personally, welcome Southwest in EWR. If I need to get up there for any reason, rest assured it will be on you guys first and CAL last. Just remember, when you see the words, "Contact Newark Gate Hold on 132.45 NOW" on your PDC, you're in for a long day.
 
roughneck said:
Is the General afraid he will be furloughed again when SWA kicks a little Delta Arse in ATL? I'm smelling a little fear from the boy.
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SW kicking arse in ATL? You must not go in there a lot (or at all), but I do, and I park in the D concourse next to some of the AT gates, and those ground people don't look too fast to me. You get what you pay for, and I hope those SW wages will be a huge increase, because they don't look like they could do quick turns. And, when Delta saw Jetblue increasing flights at JFK a few years ago, they dumped a bunch of slow Dash-8s (freedom air) into the system to slow Jetblue down. I wouldn't put it past them to do something like that again. Also, will you get more gates at ATL, or just use the existing ones more? The C and D concourses for Airtran usually look full, so I don't know how much more expansion you can get. I think the General will be watching this with a smile on his face.
 
johnsonrod said:
SW kicking arse in ATL? You must not go in there a lot (or at all), but I do, and I park in the D concourse next to some of the AT gates, and those ground people don't look too fast to me. You get what you pay for, and I hope those SW wages will be a huge increase, because they don't look like they could do quick turns. And, when Delta saw Jetblue increasing flights at JFK a few years ago, they dumped a bunch of slow Dash-8s (freedom air) into the system to slow Jetblue down. I wouldn't put it past them to do something like that again. Also, will you get more gates at ATL, or just use the existing ones more? The C and D concourses for Airtran usually look full, so I don't know how much more expansion you can get. I think the General will be watching this with a smile on his face.
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That will work well.USAir did that to us in BWI and created getto jet. I do not think SWA even flys into BWI anymore. It is all USair.
 
johnsonrod said:
SW kicking arse in ATL? You must not go in there a lot (or at all), but I do, and I park in the D concourse next to some of the AT gates, and those ground people don't look too fast to me. You get what you pay for, and I hope those SW wages will be a huge increase, because they don't look like they could do quick turns. And, when Delta saw Jetblue increasing flights at JFK a few years ago, they dumped a bunch of slow Dash-8s (freedom air) into the system to slow Jetblue down. I wouldn't put it past them to do something like that again. Also, will you get more gates at ATL, or just use the existing ones more? The C and D concourses for Airtran usually look full, so I don't know how much more expansion you can get. I think the General will be watching this with a smile on his face.
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So. You're basing your knowledge of AirTran's operation in ATL on the view out the window of an ERJ ?

Here are the facts. AirTran dropped its flights in ATL to 200(+/-) from 300(+/-) a day. SWA plans to ramp flights up to well over 300 a day. The final number will make AirTrans operation seem modest.

All gates can be converted to 737 gates. This was negotiated with the airport as part of the International terminal deal.

The ramp in ATL has become surprisingly efficient in recent years. Not perfect, but pretty good. I've got a feeling that SWA may be able to improve on that a tad .... Hmmmm ? They have some experience in the business of turning a 737.
 
That's super Dicko....

You think? I'll bet you can't just taxi past planes in a 20 plane line.....then again, after a few pizza parties, that will just be a minor nuisance.
 
BILL LUMBERG said:
That's super Dicko....

You think? I'll bet you can't just taxi past planes in a 20 plane line.....then again, after a few pizza parties, that will just be a minor nuisance.
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Bill,

I think you missed the point.

Nobody can control the line for takeoff. You can control the time it takes to turn an airplane. DAL can do that ...... Right Bill ?

I'm confused about the pizza thing. Are you offering to buy me dinner ?

:D
 
johnsonrod said:
SW kicking arse in ATL? You must not go in there a lot (or at all), but I do, and I park in the D concourse next to some of the AT gates, and those ground people don't look too fast to me. You get what you pay for, and I hope those SW wages will be a huge increase, because they don't look like they could do quick turns. And, when Delta saw Jetblue increasing flights at JFK a few years ago, they dumped a bunch of slow Dash-8s (freedom air) into the system to slow Jetblue down. I wouldn't put it past them to do something like that again. Also, will you get more gates at ATL, or just use the existing ones more? The C and D concourses for Airtran usually look full, so I don't know how much more expansion you can get. I think the General will be watching this with a smile on his face.
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AirTran is at 6 flts a day at each gate.
We plan on 10. You do the math.
Delta tried to dump "Song" on JetBlue too. I am not sure that worked out too well.
LaGuardia is not exactly known for its swift operations. We are killing it there!!! We will do our best in ATL too.
 
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Newark is a d@mned nightmare. Don't you guys get paid double time for every minute you save on a sector? No double time for you out of that cesspool. I HATE EWR. It was good for overtime though!

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Whataburger said:
AirTran is at 6 flts a day at each gate.
We plan on 10. You do the math.
Delta tried to dump "Song" on JetBlue too. I am not sure that worked out too well.
LaGuardia is not exactly known for its swift operations. We are killing it there!!! We will do our best in ATL too.
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Where is all of your supposed killing in LGA happening? Was it posted in the Herb Turd News or somewhere more reliable and without bias?

Perhaps your on-time rating slipping is because of OTHER airports? Oh well, I can't hate on ya if you think you are "Killing it!"
 

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