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Skywest/asa/xjt...no excuse for not having industry best contract!!

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ApocketA's_145

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No excuse to not have industry leading contract with a merger of 3 companies and 7,000 pilots! All skywest/asa/xjt pilots must stand up and start racing to the top, not racing to the bottom!!
 
Sounds great. This offline pilot wishes good luck and is also looking forward to having upward races with other airliens.
 
ApocketA's_145 said:
No excuse to not have industry leading contract with a merger of 3 companies and 7,000 pilots! All skywest/asa/xjt pilots must stand up and start racing to the top, not racing to the bottom!!
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There is no excuse for skw pilots to have an industry leading contract...except that they are non-union.

Abernathy said:
Who said they would combine any of us if any of this were true?
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The XJT pilots' contract
 
Abernathy said:
If any part of this rumor is true, get used to having your contract broken. Grieve it.
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We have already been getting used to our contract broken lately. But if skw attempts what you seem to be alluding to, it would amount to a major dispute (rather than a minor dispute in which the courts have said must be dealt with thru the grievance process). This would probably land in some federal district judge's court in order to enjoin skw to comply with the clear and inambigious intent of the scope and holding letter.

In any case, there is no need for you to be rude about it.
 
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Nevets said:
We have already been getting used to our contract broken lately. But if skw attempts what you seem to be alluding to, it would amount to a major dispute (rather than a minor dispute in which the courts have said must be dealt with thru the grievance process). This would probably land in some federal district judge's court in order to enjoin skw to comply with the clear and inambigious intent of the scope and holding letter.

In any case, there is no need for you to be rude about it.
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If it happened, could SKW merge you into ASA on their own certificate and keep you away from SKW itself?


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
General Lee said:
If it happened, could SKW merge you into ASA on their own certificate and keep you away from SKW itself?


Bye Bye---General Lee
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I'm former XJT and don't have a copy of the contract available, but if I remember it correctly, it is very clear that SKW will have to merge all seniority lists with the XJT seniority list. It plainly states that any acquisition requires the seniority lists to be merged in order to go forward. It's a good thing that Neal and others were thinking ahead when they negotiated this contract.

Tim
 
No, sorry, only ASA is buying ExpressJet. Not SkyWest. Thanks for playing.
 
XPOO said:
No, sorry, only ASA is buying ExpressJet. Not SkyWest. Thanks for playing.
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LOL. Nicely played. The boys over at SKW inc are real sharp. Figured out how to circumvent that by just replacing SKW inc, with ASA. There goes the "ASA can't buy anyone" theory!
 
XPOO said:
No, sorry, only ASA is buying ExpressJet. Not SkyWest. Thanks for playing.
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But all the FI MBA/CEO's said ASA couldn't buy anyone...only INC could...What happened?
 
JoeMerchant said:
But all the FI MBA/CEO's said ASA couldn't buy anyone...only INC could...What happened?
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They are experts I tell you! Experts! The negative nancys also preached how the super regional aspirations and rebranding were all a pipedream to keep moral up. What say you now?! LOL!
 
Why are people so proud to say ASA is buying ExpressJet? Just because some people said that couldn't happen? Seems that the decision to "let" ASA buy ExpressJet was made try to avoid combining lists!! This is not a good thing people. I would feel better about 7,000 over 4,000 strong!! Point being it seems that it is going to have to be battled out in court?
 
Straight from CC at SKW:

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Today SkyWest, Inc. confirmed that Atlantic Southeast Airlines has reached an agreement to acquire ExpressJet Holdings, Inc.
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the intent is to merge ExpressJet Airlines with Atlantic Southeast.
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In conjunction with the acquisition, a new long-term flying contract with Continental Airlines has been negotiated.
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Point being it seems that it is going to have to be battled out in court?
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What are you talking about?

'Battled out in court'? What battle? Over what? Between who?

The definitive merger agreement has been unanimously approved by the SkyWest and ExpressJet boards of directors. The transaction is not subject to financing conditions, but is subject to receipt of certain regulatory approvals, approval of ExpressJet stockholders and other customary conditions. The parties currently anticipate that the transaction will close during the fourth quarter of 2010.
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The BOD's of both companies unanimously approve, regulatory approval will be forthcoming...what 'battle' are you anticipating?
 
JoeMerchant said:
But all the FI MBA/CEO's said ASA couldn't buy anyone...only INC could...What happened?
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LOL....The intelligence on FlightInfo laughable at best. Dunce caps should be frequently distributed to folks who continuously eat their feet.

I am not proud of anyone buying anything at this point....Im just gonna show up and continue to do my job to the best of my abilities...like I promised.....Good luck to us all.
 
Medeco said:
Entertaining to you??? This now affects you my friend. You had better hope they can get a positive outcome.
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Uh, yeah.

I'll hope for the best.

In the meantime, I don't have any intention of letting the inevitable MEC antics go unappreciated for their comedy value.

As a very junior ASA pilot, this doesn't seem to bode well for me.
 
johnpeace said:
I don't think Express Jet's pilot group contract language 'sealing' scope agreements with Continental are worth...and that language is especially vulnerable now.

Watching the 2 MECs try to work together and trip over their dicks while trying to keep up with management is going to be the most entertaining sideshow of this whole thing.
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Walk your junior tail over the office and let em have it then!
 
Walk your junior tail over the office and let em have it then!
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Not a whole lot of point in that...but I'll enjoy watching bemusedly from the bleachers.
 
Dannone said:
Why are people so proud to say ASA is buying ExpressJet? Just because some people said that couldn't happen? Seems that the decision to "let" ASA buy ExpressJet was made try to avoid combining lists!! This is not a good thing people. I would feel better about 7,000 over 4,000 strong!! Point being it seems that it is going to have to be battled out in court?
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Nothing to "battle out"... Atlantic Southeast Airlines bought XJT, not Inc. Don't try outsmarting Jerry...you will lo(o)se that battle.

This is good for all of us, and let's work together to make it successful.
 
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Hoping for the best here, definitely this has the potential to work out really well for all of us.
 

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