Mesaba MEC Conference Call Highlights

[SEVEN]

-Management wishes to put all jet flying on 9E certificate and all prop flying on XJ certificate, Colgan will no longer exist

-All 3 pilot groups want single seniority list

-MEC expects transition to be 2 years (based on NW DL merger)

-Contract is status quo for the transition time

-If XJ planes are moved around, XJ pilots will go with them per section 1

-DL and XJ to discuss flowthrough next week, remains unchanged for now

-Crappy 9E travel benefits start 2011

 

[redflyer65]

Welcome to the suck that is called Pinnicale Mr. Seven.

 

[Raoul Duke]

why would the Mesaba pilots want to be on a single list - they would be much better off keeping separate lists.

 

[BoilerUP]

why would the Mesaba pilots want to be on a single list - they would be much better off keeping separate lists.

Because a single list means NO WHIPSAW.

 

[Raoul Duke]

but so long as their scope gives them the right to those planes (which the post above indicates) they have no risk of losing anything - which is the typical use of the wipsaw. (i.e. agree to this or lose your flying - i.e. Trans States). As soon as you eliminate the ability to take away their flying they are better served on a separate certificate. It also forces Pinnacle to put all of the aircraft at one base to justify the maintenance expenses which prevents everyone from getting shuffled all over the place.

 

[Cardinal]

why would the Mesaba pilots want to be on a single list - they would be much better off keeping separate lists.

Negative. Unless they WANT to fight to the last nickel for every seat in every aircraft.

 

[Cardinal]

but so long as their scope gives them the right to those planes (which the post above indicates) they have no risk of losing anything - which is the typical use of the wipsaw. (i.e. agree to this or lose your flying - i.e. Trans States). As soon as you eliminate the ability to take away their flying they are better served on a separate certificate. It also forces Pinnacle to put all of the aircraft at one base to justify the maintenance expenses which prevents everyone from getting shuffled all over the place.

That's short sighted. In a couple years when the CRJ9000XWB-400 or whatever new shiny jet is on order management will ask "who wants to fly these? We need a low rate to be competitive" and then each seniority list would face the moral hazard of underbidding to stay employed and/or upgrade.

 

[Flyer1015]

Ditto to above. Remember Freedom A at Mesa? We need one list with a fair integration. Delta/NWA did it, so can we. Just don't let it be like US Airways / AWA.

 

[johnsonrod]

Single list or STRIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[WSurf]

Smart move! Definitely single carrier status or nothing! Hopefully the sell has the same mindset!