Delta Pilots don't check for frost on wings

[callowayhd]

at some companies it is ok to take off with frost adhering to the BOTTOM of the wing caused by cold soaked fuel

 

[ACL65PILOT]

at some companies it is ok to take off with frost adhering to the BOTTOM of the wing caused by cold soaked fuel

It has more to do with the manufacturer specs.

Most can take off with less than a 1/4 inch of frost on the bottom side, but it has to be approved by the airplane maker.

 

[generaltso]

it was probably dew

 

[DH106]

If the original poster, batsky2000, wasn't such a useless troll, he'd have either defended himself by now or admitted his ignorance.

But, he hasn't spoken up in 3 pages of threads. Time to just let this thread die.

Just be glad that none of us will be on his supposed Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Who knows... it's probably a Microsoft Flight Simualtor G, anyway.

 

[pipejockey]

I can't speak for DL, but hot water is no longer an approved method to remove frost from the wings anymore, at least at WN. I'm sure that DAB doesn't have a way to deice Airplanes either. We've had this problem as well out in CA with cold soaked fuel frost and not having any way to remove it other than to wait for it to melt. It sounds like the crew did the only thing they could which was wait for the frost to melt. Sorry you missed your connecting flight.

I disagree. The other option was to not let a passenger dictate whether a plane departs or not. This putz should have been ignored. I'm sure he wouldn't be too happy if we came to his office and started telling him how to do his job. Time to black out the windows I suppose. The cattle back there doesn't pay enough for the privilege of the view anyway.

 

[Linedriver]

I disagree. The other option was to not let a passenger dictate whether a plane departs or not. This putz should have been ignored. I'm sure he wouldn't be too happy if we came to his office and started telling him how to do his job. Time to black out the windows I suppose. The cattle back there doesn't pay enough for the privilege of the view anyway.

You can't ignore or disregard a public comment like that, it has to be addressed by the crew and dealt with at that moment. If not, it opens the airline up to speculation and liability. The crew did the right thing. Hopefully the frost did form after the wing inspection and I'm sure that is getting looked into as well.

 

[Abernathy]

I disagree. The other option was to not let a passenger dictate whether a plane departs or not. This putz should have been ignored. I'm sure he wouldn't be too happy if we came to his office and started telling him how to do his job. Time to black out the windows I suppose. The cattle back there doesn't pay enough for the privilege of the view anyway.

You mean if a pax notices frost or ice on the wing that would be illegal to depart with, you would just ignore it because it was noticed by a pax?

 

[maru657]

The experience level at the FAA has dropped to an astonishing low as evidenced by their worries about frost. I'm hearing about FED's for major 121 carriers with no 121 or large airplane experience at all.

 

[relief tube]

I just want to say thanks to the Delta Pilots on yesterday's Flight DL1954 DAB to ATL for making myself as well as 3/4 of the rest of the passengers miss their connections.

The flight was set to depart at 0600, but taxied out at 0630. We taxied to the runway, stopped short of taxing onto it when a passenger told a FA that they saw frost on the wing, the Captain came out putting on his hat and jacket with a flashlight to look outside through the window, after a couple more looks we taxied back and he made the decision to wait till the sun came out to heat the wings and melt the frost.

My question is don't you guys do walk arounds anymore? That should have been found before you taxi out of the ramp. Plus when we got back to the ramp, these idiots never even walked out to inspect for themselves, they just waited till the sun came out.


Just for future reference, HOT WATER works great when by 0630 the temp was well abouve freezing.

Even if the flight left by 0700, everyone would have made their connections, heck the Delta flight that was due to fly after us, took off first

I was going to SMF, since I missed that I had to fly to SFO and drive, thanks.

What a bunch of idiots, morons, etc................

why the ******************** are passengers posting ******************** on here?

Seriously, this place should require your pilots cert. number to have an account so we don't have to listen to dumb ******************** like this.

As "idiotic" as that pilot was, he manned up by having the sense to not take off, embarassing as it was for him.

 

[EV120]

Remember this was DAL. Good goes around, great lands on Mike...

Couldn't resist, sorry.