American Eagle ..HIRING....

[pipejockey]

You make some valid points and that my friend is why this is America the Beautiful....you are entitled to your own opinion...I personally would never look at statistical history in a business model like the american transportation system to "predict the horrid future"...you may be right...I may be right....only time will tell....one thing is for certain...there may be concessions, consolidations, mergers, takeovers, rise and fall of crude oil and furloughs...but america has to fly...that will never change...pipejockey, good luck in the future...

I agree that anything can happen except for that one statement. Oil in general will NEVER EVER go down! There may be short term reductions due to what we have been experiencing the past year and a half, but we are running out of oil and no way will we be able to sustain fuel burns of 20 to 30 thousand pounds of fuel burn on an average domestic flight. And this is the one thing that even the best economy this country has ever experienced can overcome. We are an industry that relies on one of the most quickly depleting natural resources on earth. Although we have seen viable alternatives to just about every other oil powered thing we have, I have not heard of anything that can power airliners. I truly feel in 20 years if we are still relying solely on oil to power aircraft, we will actually have LESS capacity in 20 years compared to what we have now. With some of the plans I have seen for super high speed trains in the future, I think domestic air travel will begin to plummet within 20 years.

I wish you good luck as well. We sure as hell are going to need it!!

 

[PA44Jockey]

I left the airlines last year and I am thinking about applying with American Eagle, however my ATP written is now expired. Is a current written in the requirements for AE?

 

[LewisU_Pilot]

I left the airlines last year and I am thinking about applying with American Eagle, however my ATP written is now expired. Is a current written in the requirements for AE?

No, but as far as I know current flying in the last 12 months is.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

re: Oil-based jet fuel; The US Air Force is planning on using non-oil based fuels for ALL domestic flying by 2016.

cliff
GRB

 

[OurMoney1]

Eagle hiring professional FO's.........only 14 years to upgrade to the left seat. Family Dollar has a better career forecast. Yikes

 

[bobs98tlr]

Cliff- sorry our conversation got cut short at ORD. Was nice talking to you..What do they plan on using instead of oil-based jet fuel. Has there been much testing on this?

OurMoney1- there isnt anyone on the property that has 14 years as an FO that doesnt want to be..most senior FO not by choice is a 10-11 year guy. Things will move soon, if not...this still beats the he!! out of a desk.

 

[Flyby1206]

Cliff- sorry our conversation got cut short at ORD. Was nice talking to you..What do they plan on using instead of oil-based jet fuel. Has there been much testing on this?

OurMoney1- there isnt anyone on the property that has 14 years as an FO that doesnt want to be..most senior FO not by choice is a 10-11 year guy. Things will move soon, if not...this still beats the he!! out of a desk.

Rentech:

http://www.rentechinc.com/fuels.php

Algae based bio-fuels

 

[pipejockey]

Hi!

re: Oil-based jet fuel; The US Air Force is planning on using non-oil based fuels for ALL domestic flying by 2016.

cliff
GRB

The renjet article says only 50%. But does anyone know the projected cost of this synthetic oil per barrel. If it is expensive to make, it still will have to be the equivalent in today's dollars of less than $100 a barrel. Anything more than $100 a barrel will not allow the industry to grow with demand in the future.

Edit: I just answered my own question. The following from the rentech website.

What does it cost to produce a barrel of synthetic fuels?

The cost to produce a barrel of synthetic fuels is competitive with projections of future prices of petroleum products.

So the issue of exploding prices of fossil fuel seem to still be a problem. Something needs to be developed that will not rise in price far greater than the rate of our inflation like oil has. If the cost to produce this oil is equivalent to projections of future prices of petroleum products, then I stand by my earlier opinion that this industry is doomed. It just can't sustain the cost of all this capacity at $100 plus per barrel oil. My prediction is that we will once again see 100 per barrel oil by the end of the year, and $150 sometime in 2011. This industry can't be expanded with those prices.

 

[pipejockey]

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
http://www.newsoffuture.com/oil_price_in_near_future_peak_oil.html

http://allfinancialmatters.com/2006/10/17/could-we-see-300-oil-by-2020/
Look at the chart of the "projected" prices" in the above link written in 2006. The projections were way low for 07 and 08, and somewhat accurate for 09 only because of the worst economy since the great depression (Thanks Bush). So you can only imagine how far above the projections we will be in the future.

 

[DGdaPilot]

Eagle actually has 2700 active pilots on their seniority list. Where do you get your info?

Forgot to respond to pipejerker. Eagle has ~2400 pilots in good standing.

 

[pipejockey]

Forgot to respond to pipejerker. Eagle has ~2400 pilots in good standing.

I don't give a flying f*** how many are in "good standing". Someone was putting out info that was way out of whack by saying Eagle had 2400 pilots. They didn't say anything about "good standing" "bad standing" "rat ba*stard standing" as no one gives a crap. What matters are the total number of pilots on property...pilots that would be ahead of any newhire. And that is nearly 2700.

 

[DGdaPilot]

Oh boy.....aomeone has a belly full of billy badass. +1 for the internet street fighter.

To those interviewing, good luck and welcome aboard. We don't all have the personality of a tumbleweed's nutsack.

 

[Flyby1206]

So the issue of exploding prices of fossil fuel seem to still be a problem. Something needs to be developed that will not rise in price far greater than the rate of our inflation like oil has. If the cost to produce this oil is equivalent to projections of future prices of petroleum products, then I stand by my earlier opinion that this industry is doomed. It just can't sustain the cost of all this capacity at $100 plus per barrel oil. My prediction is that we will once again see 100 per barrel oil by the end of the year, and $150 sometime in 2011. This industry can't be expanded with those prices.

Agreed, but if all of a sudden commercial aviation didnt use any oil what would that do to the price of oil? If it drives the price of oil down then the price of synthetic jetfuel would also have to fall (in order to remain more economical than old school oil).

 

[pipejockey]

Oh boy.....aomeone has a belly full of billy badass. +1 for the internet street fighter.

To those interviewing, good luck and welcome aboard. We don't all have the personality of a tumbleweed's nutsack.

Where the hell do you come from? And what is your problem? Did I threaten anyone in any way? Was I bragging about my UFC skills? So what's your issue with me? If you're the one that put out the inaccurate info on the pilot numbers at Eagle, so be it! I merely corrected you and listed the accurate numbers. Then you go off on some tangent justifying your mistake by babbling about members in good ALPO standing, instead of just letting it go and letting the correct numbers be posted by someone who had more accurate info. Did I step on your manhood or something? I feel sorry for the CA's that get stuck flying with you as you must go off on them anytime they try to teach you something or correct you on something, as you apparently know it all.

 

[pipejockey]

Agreed, but if all of a sudden commercial aviation didnt use any oil what would that do to the price of oil? If it drives the price of oil down then the price of synthetic jetfuel would also have to fall (in order to remain more economical than old school oil).

That would be a great day in aviation, and maybe we would once again see good career movement, but the chance of that happening is like our pay and QOL going back to what it was in 1978!