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Actually the 190/195 is on our current payscale along with the Crj-900.

Emb-195
Newhire F/O pay:54.17 5yr:76.86 12yr: 86.45
CAPT 5yr:119.90 12yr: 126.57

Crj-900/Emb-190
newhire F/O pay: 54.17 5yr:65.38 12yr:73.54
Capt 5yr:102.00 12yr: 107.67


I hope that this never happens. This curse will keep the junior folks held back in these low paid Capt positions for at least a decade. Nor really a raise when you consider a F/O can make more...
 
Good point. I believe that we need to get the EMB 190/195 rates up to par with the DC9 in 2012 and make sure they are flown by us. Basically a 100 seat plane and the DC9-10 was about 80. We don't have to have a mentality either about giving something to get this. Its ours. Period. Again you are right these need to be main line rates.
 
Agreed, but lets get them on property first. Do not cost yourself out of a jet before you take possession of it.
 
Agreed, but lets get them on property first. Do not cost yourself out of a jet before you take possession of it.


I disagree. They are already ours. This many seats is a main line plane. Its not to be discussed. JB already flies them with better rates. No one else is allowed to fly them for Delta and no one but Delta will, at JB rates or better. We all need to take this stance and no other. Anything that even appears to be a "starting place" short of this will do more harm than good. IMO This is a hard line, its not negotiable. The only negotiable part is the pay rate, but they both come at the same time. Not one then lets talk about the other.
 
I disagree. They are already ours. This many seats is a main line plane. Its not to be discussed. JB already flies them with better rates. No one else is allowed to fly them for Delta and no one but Delta will, at JB rates or better. We all need to take this stance and no other. Anything that even appears to be a "starting place" short of this will do more harm than good. IMO This is a hard line, its not negotiable. The only negotiable part is the pay rate, but they both come at the same time. Not one then lets talk about the other.
Trouble with this thought process is we already have the rates in our contract.They put out an AE with 195 or cj900 not much we could do.
 
Where are you FI Deltoid regulars going?

ACL?
Peanuckle?
Shwanker?
Monsytebuck?
Superpilot?

et al ...

I'm staying in the NYC ER for now -- probably looking at year round reserve.
 
Heyas,

You guys amaze me. The flow through is a written part of the JPWA, and all you talk about is figuring a way around it.

Yet every time the company figures out a way around another part of the contract, we howl in dismay.

You can't ignore one section without weakening all the others.

Nu
 

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