Pilots are dumb

[Nindiri]

lol? Wow, you must really be some bored really high school kid looking for his jollies. That's some great FA text skills you got there sparky. In case you actually are a professional pilot with 11000 hours and a 737 rating, I'd be amazed without drugs if you "lol" when some other tool goes to the likes of ATP and undercuts your job toting a guppy killer sticker flying for an airline like Republic at $30 an hour. If I'm a 3 watt light bulb, then you're the flashing led light on those fluffy flashing crew luggage wheels.

<shrugs> Beats the hell out of me where you came up with all of that nonsense. All I said was that I would be pissed, too, if I had spent nearly 100K on my ratings like you and the OP did, only to find out later that I could have done it for half that much.

 

[Phrogs4ever]

But when some places you want to work for require it, then it does.

As far as the career is concerned, you can also fly an airplane with the following but I wouldn't recommend doing it:

-Facial tattoo
-facial piercings
-2 DUI's
-a manslaughter conviction
-being a member of the Crips in good standing
-refusal to wear a neck tie.

Damn dude! Are these pilots at Allegiant?

Also, I think you have Pilotyip figured wrong.

 

[waveflyer]

like this:

Private Cert. - 1999
Community College - 1999-2002
Instrument - 2001
Commercial - 2002
Multi - 2002
CFII/MEI - 2003
ATP - 2007
Bachelors Degree - 2006-2009

I would suggest going to a very good community college then transfer to a 4 year school. I have only 12000 college debt and no flight school debt. It can be done, it's heartbreaking and tough but eventually it'll happen. I just can't believe people go into so much debt. My mother always used to say, "where there's a will, there's a way..."

that's very good- the answer is in the balance.
CC is a no brainer if $$'s a huge issue over "the college experience"- I did it and completed almost all of my GE credits at about $1000/ semester incl books.
I do question 4 years to get to an MEI- I've seen a LOT of students eventually get worn down and quit due to lack of progression bc they take too long between flights trying to pay for them- You are learning a proficiency- a person flying 3-5 times per week will progress faster and spend MUCH less $$ than someone flying once a week. factor in seniority and time value of money and a reasonable debt is OFTEN the smartest way to approach it.

I also recommend going to a regular college with an aviation program- social skills are a plus in this career -

 

[Captain Morgan]

that's very good- the answer is in the balance.
CC is a no brainer if $$'s a huge issue over "the college experience"- I did it and completed almost all of my GE credits at about $1000/ semester incl books.
I do question 4 years to get to an MEI- I've seen a LOT of students eventually get worn down and quit due to lack of progression bc they take too long between flights trying to pay for them- You are learning a proficiency- a person flying 3-5 times per week will progress faster and spend MUCH less $$ than someone flying once a week. factor in seniority and time value of money and a reasonable debt is OFTEN the smartest way to approach it.

I also recommend going to a regular college with an aviation program- social skills are a plus in this career -

Sure, I believe a lot of what you say is good to consider. Some people do get discouraged or figure out they don't like it. They quit if it takes too long. Everybody has a way that will work best for them. I just threw my path up there to maybe give someone an idea of another way they can accomplish their dream. As far as seniority goes, I don't know if gaining a few years seniority over 100000 in debt is the way to go, but maybe I'm wrong. Perhaps one of the statisticians on this board can work out the problem so we can see if it really is worth it. My reserve has ended and I'm going to go drink with my wife.

 

[Kalifornia]

<shrugs> Beats the hell out of me where you came up with all of that nonsense. All I said was that I would be pissed, too, if I had spent nearly 100K on my ratings like you and the OP did, only to find out later that I could have done it for half that much.

I bet 35K you're wrong. Doesn't really matter ; what matters is if you keep that attitude, karma and some event or someone in real life will "lol", unpleasantly adjust your low life cockiness.

 

[Nindiri]

No, really, I feel bad for you. It must suck to learn that you wasted all that money when you could have done it for half as much. I know I'd be angry if I had done such a stupid thing.

 

[Dubya]

I hear more and more pilots beotching about being away from home, traveling, hotels (as one of the earlier posters), and I think to my self, these people have to be some of the dumbest friggin' people on earth.

Did you think being a pilot didn't include any of this?

 

[pilotyip]

maybe

I hear more and more pilots beotching about being away from home, traveling, hotels (as one of the earlier posters), and I think to my self, these people have to be some of the dumbest friggin' people on earth.

Did you think being a pilot didn't include any of this?

Maybe don't like flying airplanes?

 

[Captain Morgan]

I hear more and more pilots beotching about being away from home, traveling, hotels (as one of the earlier posters), and I think to my self, these people have to be some of the dumbest friggin' people on earth.

Did you think being a pilot didn't include any of this?

I agree, if they don't like it why do they stay? They not only make themselves miserable but everyone who actually loves this job and flying to begin with.

 

[waveflyer]

The fantasy is very different from the reality...
Often, schedules that are doable, 6 months later are fatiguing. Being away from home right out of college is fantastic, but wears on you 10 years later with a 3 yeAr old at home.
It's attitude, bu it's also the reality of the schedule you have.

 

[SFR]

What a garbage career. I cannot believe people are actually dropping tens of thousands of dollars in training to actually get a shot at making 20K/year in addition to being on the road half the month.

I have thrown the towel in from an established career to make a career elsewhere.

How do people justify spending almost six-figures on training for a job that pays minimum wage? Last time I checked the clerk at 7-11 did not pay $75k to train for his job(he is too smart to do that).

Before long widebodies will be flown for $55k/year.

Pilots were once pricks, now they are just dumb. Continue the stabs in the back and enjoy the work and medical and check rides for dirt money. No thanks...
Enjoy

What career are you talking about? I have flown 6 days in the last 3.5 months and got paid 8.5k/mo for that.

Not many other careers that I know of allow that.

 

[M-16A2]

Marine Corps is hiring. You will gain a new perspective.

 

[Captain Morgan]

What career are you talking about? I have flown 6 days in the last 3.5 months and got paid 8.5k/mo for that.

Not many other careers that I know of allow that.

But how many people are lucky enough to be where you are? Not as many as you'd think. I am happy for you, but I think what is happening is the disparity between the have and have nots in the airline industry. Thats why there is so much bellyaching.

 

[SFR]

But how many people are lucky enough to be where you are? Not as many as you'd think. I am happy for you, but I think what is happening is the disparity between the have and have nots in the airline industry. Thats why there is so much bellyaching.

Hasn't it always been that way with every career? I suggest to anyone that does not like their current job that they evaluate their situation and quit if it does not work for them......vs complaining about it forever. I don't want to hear the complains, either do something or kayate.

 

[BOYCAPTAIN]

What career are you talking about? I have flown 6 days in the last 3.5 months and got paid 8.5k/mo for that.

Not many other careers that I know of allow that.

??