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As for the jetways. They are required to be outside of the FAA approved clear zone so the aircraft can taxi in. It is part of our FAA approved procedures.
 
ACL65PILOT said:
Bid may be delayed slightly. Nothing too sigificant, but not on the 16th. To DAL guys this is nothing new. The whole when and what of AE's is such a moving target.

MSP will get bigger, NYC may grow as there will be 10,000 block hrs on the 88 in March and beyond if the swap get approved, and ATL will shrink this time around. Even if you get killed on this AE it appears that the Aug 2010 AE will right some of the cuts in ATL.

I am looking at how the ER movement in NYC will be then, the 777 in DTW then the 320 in MSP. We will see how many guys in ATL decide that a commute is better than a 3K a month pay cut.
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Would have been nice if they had done the 765 move to NY and the ATL 767 to ER conversion pre-SOC. Now those guys are kind of SOL with their equipment thrown into the big pool.
 
ACL65PILOT said:
MSP will get bigger, NYC may grow as there will be 10,000 block hrs on the 88 in March and beyond if the swap get approved, and ATL will shrink this time around. Even if you get killed on this AE it appears that the Aug 2010 AE will right some of the cuts in ATL.
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Yeah, but the problem is some of the guys bumped out of ATL may never get their seats back as NWA pilots migrate south.
 
xray678 said:
Yeah, but the problem is some of the guys bumped out of ATL may never get their seats back as NWA pilots migrate south.
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Yep, and I am one of them with a house here, but you will never hear me complain about it. Why? We voted for the JPWA and it now is what it is. It serves no purpose.

BTW, never is a long time. I would say 2-3 years for most seats above a 7537.
 
I suspect the worlds most successful airline merger is going to screw a lot of Delta S pilots out of their seats.

IMHO the south pilots would have been better off at a stand alone Delta.
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Really. Where would the old DelDa be getting D.I.P. financing about now? You did a lousy job restructuring in Ch-11. Have one of the worst cash/revenue ratio's. NWA had one of the best. The SLI was a wash and DelDa gains every year from now on. Sorry USAir didn't buy you.
 
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Diesel-9 said:
Really. Where would the old DelDa be getting D.I.P. financing about now? You did a lousy job restructuring in Ch-11. Have one of the worst cash/revenue ratio's. NWA had one of the best. The SLI was a wash and DelDa gains every year from now on. Sorry USAir didn't buy you.
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Just remember NWA had all that extra money because you gave it away to keep those pensions, that you still have, along with the money again. (Yeah, I know---70 hours min vs 75, double pay over 80, healthcare costs, blah blah) I tend to think we could have gotten dip financing from a lot of sources. Look how United is still around along with USAir.....

Look, we shouldn't fight anymore, but some people are sensitive. When it comes to getting bumped out of a base, people usually take it personally, and it really isn't supposed to be like that. It's called seniority, and things happen. Look at 9-11. That was out of nowhere, and it affected a lot of people at the airlines. Mergers happen too. Deal with it. Overall, we will all do better eventually.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
xray678 said:
Oh wow, just 2-3 years to get a seat back in ATL? Gee, I feel better now.
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Maybe you can go to Guam and start a new family. (just don't tell your current wife....)

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Diesel-9 said:
Really. Where would the old DelDa be getting D.I.P. financing about now? You did a lousy job restructuring in Ch-11. Have one of the worst cash/revenue ratio's. NWA had one of the best. The SLI was a wash and DelDa gains every year from now on. Sorry USAir didn't buy you.
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D.I.P. financing? That is something you only get in bankruptcy. Are you suggesting Delta is headed to CH11?
 
michael707767 said:
D.I.P. financing? That is something you only get in bankruptcy. Are you suggesting Delta is headed to CH11?
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DAL and NWA were in BK. They filed the same day in the same court. They could have, and probably did, get additional financing for the merger.
 
xray678 said:
Oh wow, just 2-3 years to get a seat back in ATL? Gee, I feel better now.
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I said worst case. Just wait and see. IF the economy turns you can leave that 50% DC0B to the new hire who will be happy as heck to be here, and on top of that get weekends off.
 
Hey ACL- Getting back to the original subject of this thread, I had a question. Do you (or anyone for that matter) know if the hiring, when it resumes will be different at all? I have a friend who interviewed in Feb. of 07. He made it through both days. He then got a phone call a week or so later saying "no thanks." He never received a letter at all after that call. I have other friends that received letters saying try us in 6 months or don't call us again. Supposedly it was the shrink/mmpi. Is it possible at all to try the interview again or would he simply be just wasting time hoping to get on with us. I want to offer encouragement but if it is a dead issue I would like to see him move on. Any info I could give him would help a lot. Thanks guys.
 
lakemead1 said:
Hey ACL- Getting back to the original subject of this thread, I had a question. Do you (or anyone for that matter) know if the hiring, when it resumes will be different at all? I have a friend who interviewed in Feb. of 07. He made it through both days. He then got a phone call a week or so later saying "no thanks." He never received a letter at all after that call. I have other friends that received letters saying try us in 6 months or don't call us again. Supposedly it was the shrink/mmpi. Is it possible at all to try the interview again or would he simply be just wasting time hoping to get on with us. I want to offer encouragement but if it is a dead issue I would like to see him move on. Any info I could give him would help a lot. Thanks guys.
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If he was told to come back in six months do it. I am sure it was the Cog, as if you dorked up the Psyche you are done. That has never changed.

As for what they may or may not do, it is conjure. There is no hiring dept, there are not employees of a hiring dept, and legal has no department to make a ruling for, ergo there is no way to know the answers to the questions you are asking. It is that simple.

When there is the above, legal will make their decision, and then we will have something to discuss. It has to be this way due to lots of guys that would sue for a job. It does not make sense, but it is what it is, and yes, DAL has been sued. Not the best way to get a job.
 
ACL65PILOT said:
If he was told to come back in six months do it. I am sure it was the Cog, as if you dorked up the Psyche you are done. That has never changed.

As for what they may or may not do, it is conjure. There is no hiring dept, there are not employees of a hiring dept, and legal has no department to make a ruling for, ergo there is no way to know the answers to the questions you are asking. It is that simple.

When there is the above, legal will make their decision, and then we will have something to discuss. It has to be this way due to lots of guys that would sue for a job. It does not make sense, but it is what it is, and yes, DAL has been sued. Not the best way to get a job.
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I was told to come back in 6 months and did and got the job, so I know they mean it when the tell you that. His only question was would he have a shot, because he was not told ANYthing about reinterviewing. He didn't even get a letter.
 
HalinTexas said:
DAL and NWA were in BK. They filed the same day in the same court. They could have, and probably did, get additional financing for the merger.
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Heyas,

NWA and DAL probably shared a cab ride to the courthouse. The merger was in the works long before that. One peek at who the "new" DAL CEO and the NWA Widget paint job should have had all the warning they needed.

Anyone that doesn't think so is naive. After the SLI talks fell apart, anyone that thought that the deal was off because the council 44 reps said so deserved the surprise they got.

No one on the NWA side was surprised. No one.

Nu
 
The bid will be out in a few days. It will close after single operating certificate is effective (the jan 1). Results would be out shortly afterward.
 
If they say to call, then call. It is a lead. Back in 98 when I got the lead I called. I was told too light on PIC but call in 6 months. I put the date in my phone and 6 months to the day called. I was then told ,"You are OK on PIC but we are only hiring 10 a month. At 4000tt, you are not competitive. Call in 6 months". Six months later I called and was told, "We are now hiring 100 a month for the forseeable future. So, if you don't get a letter within a month, call me back". The letter came two days later.

Now at 11 years here, my advice is USE ALL LEADS and take advantage of whatever you can. Very few of us are god's gift to aviation and need to create our own opportunities.
 
Bid will be out on friday.... all the as advertised stuff, plus more ATL767 domestic displacements. I hear there may be other surprises as well.
 
Delta's CFO: Revenue Will Take Off in 2010By Ted Reed 12/09/09 - 09:56 AM EST Loading Comments... Add Comment
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ATLANTA (TheStreet) -- As the airline industry recovers from recession, Delta(DAL Quote) is seeing "revenue strength above our expectations" during the current quarter, said CFO Hank Halter. Halter spoke Wednesday at an investor conference. He said the carrier is seeing continuing gradual improvements in revenue per available seat mile, a key financial measure for airlines. RASM was down 23% in June and down 11% in October, with single digit deterioration in November. Halter said the number will likely turn positive next year, "likely in the front half of 2010." Meanwhile, he said, the carrier has benefitted from synergies enabled by its 2008 merger with Northwest, which Halter called "the smoothest merger in airline history." It was apparently the first time a Delta executive publicly issued such a strong endorsement of the merger process.
Halter noted that Delta's maintenance business produces about $500 million annually in revenue, performing maintenance for other operators, making it the largest airline-operated third-party maintenance operation in the United States.
-- Written by Ted Reed in Charlotte, N.C. .
 
DAL has done classes of 25-50. With the flow agreements, bigger classes will allow for more guys from the outside.

AE today. 900~ displacements and ~1000 new positions.
 
Dunno. During the last BIG hiring boom in the late 90s-early 2000s, classes had 25-30 with 2 or 3 going at a time. When things were slow, classes had as few as 10. I think in 2007/8, classes had 25 with one going a month.

If the bid that comes out today (?) has net vacancies, MAYBE there will be hiring this Spring. If it has a net surplus, then I wouldn't expect hiring.
 
ACL65PILOT said:
DAL has done classes of 25-50. With the flow agreements, bigger classes will allow for more guys from the outside.

AE today. 900~ displacements and ~1000 new positions.
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Does the difference between those numbers imply that they could use 100 extra pilots for the summer schedule?
 

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