Why do so many WN pilots care?

[Kharma Police]

Hey Kharma,

SWA bought gates that were for sale in exchange for codeshare. We didn't run your airline and we didn't sell your gates. We didn't shut you down. We didn't put you out of business. We didn't piss off 1,000's of passengers when you locked the doors and stranded them at the outstations.

I'm sorry that you see it otherwise.

Gup

Sorry, I work for AirTran.

 

[GuppyWN]

Sorry, I work for AirTran.

Oh, sorry. You can start hatin' now because you're next! :smash:

Gup

 

[spciii]

F9 was 1/10th your size, yet the posts are dominated by WN pilots.

Well, duh!!

 

[Indapool]

Oh, sorry. You can start hatin' now because you're next! :smash:

Gup

Man that's not even funny

 

[The Victors]

I think it's more shock than anything else. The swa pilots thought this was a good deal. It appeared the f9 pilots could see the potential too. It's not arrogance.

 

[NuGuy]

Heyas,

IMHO, the junior SWA guys are pissed because they saw 40 airplanes worth of quick upgrades go "poof" after the F9 guys gave the finger to being stapled.

Now SWA faces the prospect of a ULCC in a market they desperately wanted to dominate, but to date, have failed to. That means funneling resources and plain, hard cash to combat an already annoying competitor, instead of ready made market share.

So, who's keeping score?

Flying into congested hubs
Quarterly losses
High labor costs
Upsidedown Futures
Rejected pilot agreements
Failed merger attempts

Were the above items not posted in a SWA thread, how many would say those things are associated with "legacy carriers"? Welcome to the party, boys...here's your sign.

Nu

 

[The Victors]

Heyas,

IMHO, the junior SWA guys are pissed because they saw 40 airplanes worth of quick upgrades go "poof" after the F9 guys gave the finger to being stapled.

Now SWA faces the prospect of a ULCC in a market they desperately wanted to dominate, but to date, have failed to. That means funneling resources and plain, hard cash to combat an already annoying competitor, instead of ready made market share.

So, who's keeping score?

Flying into congested hubs
Quarterly losses
High labor costs
Upsidedown Futures
Rejected pilot agreements
Failed merger attempts

Were the above items not posted in a SWA thread, how many would say those things are associated with "legacy carriers"? Welcome to the party, boys...here's your sign.

Nu

Always makes me laugh when you idiots talk about high labor costs. Actually, no it doesn't. Swa doesn't have "high" labor costs, they just maintained their labor costs while everyone else jumped off a cliff. Did you ever think high pay for professional pilots is a good thing?? Naaaa

 

[Bally]

Heyas,

IMHO, the junior SWA guys are pissed because they saw 40 airplanes worth of quick upgrades go "poof" after the F9 guys gave the finger to being stapled.

Now SWA faces the prospect of a ULCC in a market they desperately wanted to dominate, but to date, have failed to. That means funneling resources and plain, hard cash to combat an already annoying competitor, instead of ready made market share.

So, who's keeping score?

Flying into congested hubs
Quarterly losses
High labor costs
Upsidedown Futures
Rejected pilot agreements
Failed merger attempts

Were the above items not posted in a SWA thread, how many would say those things are associated with "legacy carriers"? Welcome to the party, boys...here's your sign.

Nu

Hi labor costs? WN made 52M last quarter and yearly profits for 30+ years. F9 touts recent operating profit which was accomplished off the backs of its employees. Great way to make money.

 

[AA717driver]

Did Judy Tarver start doing the hiring at SWA in 2000?

That would explain a lot...

TC

 

[viking737]

Did Judy Tarver start doing the hiring at SWA in 2000?

That would explain a lot...

TC

Explain what?
She used to be at AA pilot hiring........

 

[Tristar]

Hi labor costs? WN made 52M last quarter and yearly profits for 30+ years. F9 touts recent operating profit which was accomplished off the backs of its employees. Great way to make money.

More accurately stated would be WN is no longer the low-cost provider. I would submit that WN may soon be on the receiving end of the stick they have wielded for many years.

 

[Tripower455]

Heyas,

IMHO, the junior SWA guys are pissed because they saw 40 airplanes worth of quick upgrades go "poof" after the F9 guys gave the finger to being stapled.

I haven't talked to one FO (or Capt for that matter) who is not relieved about the outcome. IMHO, we dodged a bullet.

In this industry, seniority is life. We didn't want to give up ours and the F9 guys didn't want to give up theirs.

In the end, the F9 guys got what they want, and we got what we want.....

Why the hate?

 

[Cardinal]

In this industry, seniority is life. We didn't want to give up ours and the F9 guys didn't want to give up theirs.

In a relative seniority merger no one gives up any seniority. Yet somehow this doesn't translate into Texasese.

 

[scoreboardII]

Yet somehow in Coloradoland, folks who are selling whats left of their failed business seem to think they can call the shots...

Best of luck, this will work out best for both in the end.

 

[Kharma Police]

Oh, sorry. You can start hatin' now because you're next! :smash:

Gup

Yeah, looks like you have to find another pilot group to be your furlough fodder.