Pinnacle gets TA

[MACH-TUCK]

Thought I would post this bit of news!!!

1556 days after the amendable date an agreement was reached today in DC with the company and NMB. Wow I thought it was going to be more news of being put on ice.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

What? Wow...congrats!!!

 

[DiverDriver]

Need the deets!








ha! first to say it!

 

[Minimaniac]

Need the deets!








ha! first to say it!

dude, you are my hero.

 

[Tarzan]

I am sure it will be industry leading... or not.

 

[JoeMerchant]

I am sure it will be industry leading... or not.

What ya want to bet is less than what ASA currently has.....

 

[SpauldingSmails]

What ya want to bet is less than what ASA currently has.....

I'd bet a dollar that their Captain rates will be higher than ASA, but the FO rates year two and beyond will be lower.

 

[JustaNumber]

1556 days after the amendable date...

That's not even 4 1/2 years. I was sure your management was going to prove they could be competitive with ASA and go for at least 5+!!

Congrats (I hope).

 

[Tarzan]

I'd bet a dollar that their Captain rates will be higher than ASA, but the FO rates year two and beyond will be lower.

You're on.

 

[better up here]

Interested in the scope language... Any word?

 

[Smarta$$]

What ya want to bet is less than what ASA currently has.....

For the FIRST TIME in the history of the world, joe is correct. Its not.

 

[Smarta$$]

Interested in the scope language... Any word?

Scope language is supposedly rock solid and will require a seniority list integration with colgan.

 

[better up here]

Scope language is supposedly rock solid and will require a seniority list integration with colgan.

Good news. Glad to see this is almost done for you guys. The group positive for a vote?

 

[zawillif]

The company picked the perfect time to settle the contract. Look at the economy and industry. It would hurt them to continue stalling for another year while the economy and industry improves. I hope for the best for you guys, for everyones benefit. The only way to leapfrog is to get new contracts better than the contracts already in place.

 

[Smarta$$]

The company picked the perfect time to settle the contract. Look at the economy and industry. It would hurt them to continue stalling for another year while the economy and industry improves. I hope for the best for you guys, for everyones benefit. The only way to leapfrog is to get new contracts better than the contracts already in place.

Many Pinnacle pilots don't believe in this, and don't count on it being the case.

 

[BrickTop]

I'd bet a dollar that their Captain rates will be higher than ASA, but the FO rates year two and beyond will be lower.

And with no upgrade in the future for any &^$# regional what a way to whore out their pilots on the FO side. Prob who's getting those 5 Q400's

 

[dondk]

The company picked the perfect time to settle the contract. Look at the economy and industry. It would hurt them to continue stalling for another year while the economy and industry improves. I hope for the best for you guys, for everyones benefit. The only way to leapfrog is to get new contracts better than the contracts already in place.

I sort of agree with this. ANY new contract better than the last is an improvement. Although, 9E started beneath the majority of similar carriers. To finally be brought up to or close to *gasp* a standard, may only benefit 9E pilots. For the regional industry as a whole, it does very little.

I would not count on it to be earth shattering, although long overdue and still a little short.

I am interested to see management spins this in the quarterly report in 2 days.

 

[20sx]

I would expect FO pay to be around $30/2nd year and $35/3rd year. That sounds about average for those years.

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

There supposedly is some wording about limiting the amount of Q400's which Colgan can operate, after that flown by Pinnuckle crews.

 

[Top Gum]

Can someone please leak the details? There must be dozens in the know.

 

[Smarta$$]

Those that actually have the details are tooooooooo embarassed.

 

[PCL_128]

Interested in the scope language... Any word?

Industry leading.

 

[DoinTime]

Industry leading.

Leading the industry right behind several other carriers.

 

[Tarzan]

Leading the industry right behind several other carriers.

Now, that there is funny.

 

[Top Gum]

Is this true? Does ALPA put pressure on it’s negotiators to give just a little in the final stages so they don’t have to hand out any strike funds? I hope this isn’t true but money talks.

This deal better have some kind of junior man protection or I’m signing nothing anyway.

 

[20sx]

I think the pressure was on Pinnacle because of the new NMB and a possible strike for all their stalling. I'm just worried that parts of the TA were agreed on a long time ago. Times have changed. Back then, ready reserve wasn't abused. Now it is, I hope there is some real protection to stop reserves from being abused. I'm glad for good scope protection, but there has to be quality of life improvements also. Of course, all this talk is for nothing until we see the actual TA and stop worrying over contract rumors.

 

[zawillif]

I think the pressure was on Pinnacle because of the new NMB and a possible strike for all their stalling. I'm just worried that parts of the TA were agreed on a long time ago. Times have changed. Back then, ready reserve wasn't abused. Now it is, I hope there is some real protection to stop reserves from being abused. I'm glad for good scope protection, but there has to be quality of life improvements also. Of course, all this talk is for nothing until we see the actual TA and stop worrying over contract rumors.

Isn't that the point of reserves though??

 

[Grinder10]

Is this true? Does ALPA put pressure on it’s negotiators to give just a little in the final stages so they don’t have to hand out any strike funds? I hope this isn’t true but money talks.

This deal better have some kind of junior man protection or I’m signing nothing anyway.

You will be able to refuse JA similar to how we can refuse extensions now.

 

[73belair]

So where is the TA and the official announcement?

 

[20sx]

Isn't that the point of reserves though??

Reserves are to cover the flying, but they certainly don't have to be abused. There is nothing pretty about sitting at the airport for 9 hours 3 days in a row.