More Delta MD90s

[Browntothebone]

More mainline jets and less Connection jets is a good thing.

Not for regional pilots.

 

[Superpilot92]

Not for regional pilots.

It is if those regional pilots ever want to move on and out of the regionals

 

[Browntothebone]

It is if those regional pilots ever want to move on and out of the regionals

You are correct. However, most regional pilots nowdays claim that they have no intention of trying to get on at a major and want a career at the regionals, hence the desire for larger regional aircraft that they can fly.

 

[Superpilot92]

You are correct. However, most regional pilots nowdays claim that they have no intention of trying to get on at a major and want a career at the regionals, hence the desire for larger regional aircraft that they can fly.

I know, i saw that attitude at my previous airline. however i believe they will be disappointed in their decision once they realize the RJ boom has peaked and is now sliding backwards. To many people based career decisions based on the last cople years instead of looking forward. To each their own, we'll all know if we made the right decision or not after we retire. :beer:

 

[ExAF]

Doh!

Let's see.... CRJ-200. ~2500-3000 lbs an hour for 50 pax.

757-200.... ~7000 lbs an hour for 184 pax.

MD-90.. ~5500-6000 an hour for 150 pax.


Who's the gas hog?

By this math, the CRJ-200.
See Uncle Jed, I can cipher after all....
Jethro Bodine

 

[Browntothebone]

By this math, the CRJ-200.
See Uncle Jed, I can cipher after all....
Jethro Bodine

That's pretty good for a "double naught" spy!

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

What if you only have 40-50 pax?

Every airplane has its purpose.

Every airplane is a gas hog half full.

A 757-200 would have to have around 50 open seats to equal the burn per passenger of a full CRJ-200.

 

[800Dog]

A 757-200 would have to have around 50 open seats to equal the burn per passenger of a full CRJ-200.

You would also have to account for the revenue that 757 is generating moving freight. That could make the disparity even greater. I have heard some of our international flights could fly nearly empty and still be profitable due to the money made moving cargo. Never seen any #s to substantiate that though...

 

[RedRum]

A 757-200 would have to have around 50 open seats to equal the burn per passenger of a full CRJ-200.

What is your point? What about the rest of the paying folks in the back? What about the fact that you can take over 4 times the amount of people you can lift on a CRJ-200 and go non-stop for long distances.

RA mentioned in the conference call that he is effectively parking a lot of the regional jets. I am glad he is finally getting the picture. He knew it all along. I think he knows that he can't come to labor any more and he is going to have to cut costs elsewhere,

Glad to hear we are getting MD-90s for our operation. Makes a lot more sense.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

"Growth for Delta would be great! But the MOST important thing is these planes will not say " Connection " on the side. "



How bout DCI pilots starting a 90for90for90 campaign? That would make Delta profitable finally.

How about you play in the highway during rush hour, that would make a lot of people happy!

 

[Browntothebone]

How about you play in the highway during rush hour, that would make a lot of people happy!

How bout you give me a smooth ride and not loose my bags when I'm forced to ride on your sorry a$$ed excuse of an airline. And keep the temp in the front rows comfy too.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

What is your point? What about the rest of the paying folks in the back? What about the fact that you can take over 4 times the amount of people you can lift on a CRJ-200 and go non-stop for long distances.

RA mentioned in the conference call that he is effectively parking a lot of the regional jets. I am glad he is finally getting the picture. He knew it all along. I think he knows that he can't come to labor any more and he is going to have to cut costs elsewhere,

Glad to hear we are getting MD-90s for our operation. Makes a lot more sense.

I think you missed the point I was i was illustrating a point to a couple RJ guys that referred to us getting MD-90s as "buying more gas guzzlers." Which is obviously far from the truth as I pointed out how inefficent the burn on the CRJ is per passenger as compared to a 757 or MD-90.

You and I are on the same team and same point of view...


FWIW, I've heard for now these will not be growth airplanes, but replace MD-88s and DC-9's 1 for 1. Always subject to change, of course.

 

[AAflyer]

How bout you give me a smooth ride and not loose my bags when I'm forced to ride on your sorry a$$ed excuse of an airline. And keep the temp in the front rows comfy too.

At least their airplanes can carry the passengers' bags.......


AA

 

[Speedtape]

I think you missed the point I was i was illustrating a point to a couple RJ guys that referred to us getting MD-90s as "buying more gas guzzlers." Which is obviously far from the truth as I pointed out how inefficent the burn on the CRJ is per passenger as compared to a 757 or MD-90.

You and I are on the same team and same point of view...


FWIW, I've heard for now these will not be growth airplanes, but replace MD-88s and DC-9's 1 for 1. Always subject to change, of course.

Compare an MD-90 and a 757 burn per passenger seat. Using your logic, the MD-90 should stay in the desert because the seat burn is more than a
757.

What would happen at your airline if you had nothing but 757's? What would happen if you had nothing but MD-90's?

Different airplanes in your fleet have different missions. The idea with a Global airline is to have access to as many markets as possible. Under the concept, it takes many different size airplanes to reach those markets. Regional jets are a part of the armada--and will be until there is a suitable or more efficient replacement. Feed is critical and can make the difference in profitability. Otherwise, Delta would not have began marketing agreements in the mid 1980's. USAir was the catylist in the concept of feed, and competitors soon followed.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Compare an MD-90 and a 757 burn per passenger seat. Using your logic, the MD-90 should stay in the desert because the seat burn is more than a
757.

What would happen at your airline if you had nothing but 757's? What would happen if you had nothing but MD-90's?

Different airplanes in your fleet have different missions. The idea with a Global airline is to have access to as many markets as possible. Under the concept, it takes many different size airplanes to reach those markets. Regional jets are a part of the armada--and will be until there is a suitable or more efficient replacement. Feed is critical and can make the difference in profitability. Otherwise, Delta would not have began marketing agreements in the mid 1980's. USAir was the catylist in the concept of feed, and competitors soon followed.

I did, if you look back one page. It average out to about 2 pounds more per seat per hour.

I illustrated that not to say that the entire airline should be 757s... I'm not stupid, and you shouldn't be thick enough to think that I thought that. DAL has wayy too many CRJs... It's good to see us correcting that.