RAH buys Midwest!!!

[Indy319FA]

Going up against United and SWA in major markets= BK down the road for Republic.....

STUPID.

Who says these aircraft/bases have to stay where they are? Last time I checked you can move these things around. You guys are a trip. If you really think Bedford will leave these assets where they are going to lose money then you are foolish. Also, (and I say this with sadness in my heart) from a pure business perspective, UAL is getting weaker and weaker. If they go back into bankruptcy, then it will not be as pleasant as the last time around. SWA is a different matter, however.

My guess is he will slowly shift these aircraft and assets to areas that are more lucrative when the dust settles.

 

[contrail67]

and now Bedford has Republic in a HUGE amount of debt...I would not be too cheerful about this at all. Anytime a regional has done this in the past...and tried to go against a Major airline, the regional has been silenced.....and eliminated.

 

[MINIME]

I don't blame pilots for strategic business decisions CEOs make. The RAH pilots didn't write the check. I doubt Bedford asked them for their opinion.

That being said, they may now have been handed an opportunity to uphold this profession or to further contribute to its deterioration. How? By not getting wide-eyed over the prospect of flying bigger airframes at the expense of those currently flying them.

Sooner rather than later, most of you will have a chance to voice your opinions via a vote, as to how the compensation on larger airframes should be set. Oh yeah...it's coming. I hope that most of you, if not all of you, will vote to keep the payscales where they are or to actually improve them.

I hope you guys don't chase the carrots. Your decisions will have a huge impact on this industry. May I suggest you start by looking at the new Jetblue 190 and Airbus payscales.

 

[Lone Star]

RAH pilots are high fiving each other now ( not exacly sure why--- they just get more planes to fly at disgusting wages for the rest of their careers. )

.... Bedford, is starting a new airline ( after all the RAH feed contracts are cancelled ) that will fail miserably.....Indy Air II....

How are the RAH pilots not taking jobs from other pilots?? The are replacing pilots with their HORRIBLE pay.... wow.... WOW!

I will be happy to see that place fail in a few years, thats for sure.

I'll be sure and save this post for my 14 month old to read some day, and tell him that somebody wished his dad would not have a job so I couldn't put dinner on the table for him to eat. Real classy man. Nobody is over here high fiving. We didn't know anything about this until we saw it on the internet. So in your opinion we at RAH should all quit our jobs to make things right.

 

[Browntothebone]

I don't blame pilots for strategic business decisions CEOs make. The RAH pilots didn't write the check. I doubt Bedford asked them for their opinion.

That being said, they may now have been handed an opportunity to uphold this profession or to further contribute to its deterioration. How? By not getting wide-eyed over the prospect of flying bigger airframes at the expense of those currently flying them.

Sooner rather than later, most of you will have a chance to voice your opinions via a vote, as to how the compensation on larger airframes should be set. Oh yeah...it's coming. I hope that most of you, if not all of you, will vote to keep the payscales where they are or to actually improve them.

I hope you guys don't chase the carrots. Your decisions will have a huge impact on this industry. May I suggest you start by looking at the new Jetblue 190 and Airbus payscales.

Just to play devils advocate. If the RAH pilots were to get to fly the Airbus A-320s they bought from Frontier, irregardless of how much they got paid, just think what a huge leg up it would give them when the majors and legacies start to hire again, compared to the hordes of regional pilots with just RJ time, they would have RJ time PLUS time in a true mainline jet and would be much more competative when legacy hiring resumes.

 

[climbhappy]

6 mill in cash and a 25 million note to be coverted to commom at 10/share is a fire sale if there ever was one. basically they bought for 6 mil in cash and promise of future shareholder value...always subject to change. they're some shrewd ba$tards... yes they are.

 

[jmreii]

Just to play devils advocate. If the RAH pilots were to get to fly the Airbus A-320s they bought from Frontier, irregardless of how much they got paid, just think what a huge leg up it would give them when the majors and legacies start to hire again, compared to the hordes of regional pilots with just RJ time, they would have RJ time PLUS time in a true mainline jet and would be much more competative when legacy hiring resumes.

Just remember that some of the hiring airlines (pilots) will have awful long memories when it comes to hiring someone. You always remember who screwed you over. Example; Continental's scab situation goes back 26 or 27 years and the memories are like it was yesterday.

 

[Cornelius]

Indy319FA, can you quit posting because it is irritating to everybody.

 

[MINIME]

Just to play devils advocate. If the RAH pilots were to get to fly the Airbus A-320s they bought from Frontier, irregardless of how much they got paid, just think what a huge leg up it would give them when the majors and legacies start to hire again, compared to the hordes of regional pilots with just RJ time, they would have RJ time PLUS time in a true mainline jet and would be much more competative when legacy hiring resumes.

Well, if they do the smart thing with what they can control, payscales, QOL issues, many of them won't have to look for another job. Many of them will eventually flow up to a Major job. In that scenerio, fate will have been good to them. I can't blame them for that.

On the other hand, if they help bring Frontier payscales (and other Majors for that fact) and QOL to the Regional level, they won't have many places to look for a good job. This will become a wave that will be hard to control. Very few if any, new jobs will be created at a well paying Major or Legacy carrier. Whoever is at a Major, will be lucky to remain there. For those trying to get there, it may never happen. It's that simple.

 

[SWA/FO]

Guess the Midwest Airlines share holders are happy they voted down the Air Tran purchase. What was that for $16.50 a share? Something like 400 million?

WOW! I thought SWA was going after Midwest.

 

[Lear70]

On the other hand, if they help bring Frontier payscales (and other Majors for that fact) and QOL to the Regional level, they won't have many places to look for a good job. This will become a wave that will be hard to control. Very few if any, new jobs will be created at a well paying Major or Legacy carrier. Whoever is at a Major, will be lucky to remain there. For those trying to get there, it may never happen. It's that simple.

It's been moving that way for over a decade.

Hard to develop a real strategy against it when the game keeps changing like this and the pilots themselves won't stop undercutting each other for their new brass ring. It's human nature, and I understand it, but it's got to stop.

And no, I don't mean for RAH pilots to "fall on their swords" and quit their jobs over it, but when it comes time to negotiate a new RAH pay rate for the larger frames, you hold the line, and don't throw the minority vote (Frontier pilots) under the bus for your shot to fly said bus (no pun intended). Hold the line on the higher pay that you, someday, will enjoy, and raise your own RJ rates while you're at it.

Bring yourselves up, everyone comes with you. Negotiate those wages down, and not only will there be nowhere to go, but EVERY, SINGLE other pilot who has to contend with yet another low pay rate dragging down the average in "pattern bargaining" will be waiting for you to come interview should RAH ever furlough again... so they can smile, look at you, and say "Wow, those pay rates are low. Thanks for that. And thanks for interviewing today, have a nice trip home".

 

[Newf Dog]

"Continental's scab situation goes back 26 or 27 years...and the memories are like it was yesterday."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You know what memories are like it was yesterday? ALPA national welcoming all those SCABS at Continental back into the fold. Give me a freakin' break!!!!!

Oh but wait...you must believe that "we're takin' it back."

And while I'm being a horse's rear end, please, for the last time, "irregardless" IS NOT A WORD.

And there's no such thing as a "mute point," unless of course it's a point that nobody hears you say because you can't speak.

 

[instructordude]

and now Bedford has Republic in a HUGE amount of debt...I would not be too cheerful about this at all. Anytime a regional has done this in the past...and tried to go against a Major airline, the regional has been silenced.....and eliminated.

I would not bet against Bedford. Never.

 

[motch]

Expect to see the Majors cancel their feed agreement with RAH ala Indy Air...

 

[trainer8]

I don't blame pilots for strategic business decisions CEOs make. The RAH pilots didn't write the check. I doubt Bedford asked them for their opinion.

That being said, they may now have been handed an opportunity to uphold this profession or to further contribute to its deterioration. How? By not getting wide-eyed over the prospect of flying bigger airframes at the expense of those currently flying them.

Sooner rather than later, most of you will have a chance to voice your opinions via a vote, as to how the compensation on larger airframes should be set. Oh yeah...it's coming. I hope that most of you, if not all of you, will vote to keep the payscales where they are or to actually improve them.

I hope you guys don't chase the carrots. Your decisions will have a huge impact on this industry. May I suggest you start by looking at the new Jetblue 190 and Airbus payscales.

Thank you Capt. Obvious.....