ASA callback rumors

[n8avi8]

I'm sitting here after another fun day as teller waiting real patiently for the call to come back. I was wondering if anyone has heard any rumors?
Thanks.

 

[crj567]

I'm sitting here after another fun day as teller waiting real patiently for the call to come back. I was wondering if anyone has heard any rumors?
Thanks.

The only rumor I have heard is about MORE furloughs in the fall.... Not good times!

 

[lookin4better]

All regionals are just contract jobs anyway....things will look up in the future... dont take it personal, it happens. Its all just temp work anyway

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Those 20, 50-seaters that will be reitred in 2010 need a home, otherwise I would expect more furloughs.

 

[777forever]

Those 20, 50-seaters that will be reitred in 2010 need a home, otherwise I would expect more furloughs.

I've heard they are not being retired. If ASA does not find a home for them they will be flown for Delta on a pro-rate at risk basis.

 

[SLUF4]

I keep hearing the rumor of more furloughs, but nobody knows what will happen tomorrow. Let's just hope we can make it through this summer without being last everyday in performance.

 

[Smacktard]

I'm sitting here after another fun day as teller waiting real patiently for the call to come back. I was wondering if anyone has heard any rumors?
Thanks.

Scott was in the lounge yesterday and reiterated his email from a few weeks ago, make your money now because there will be a large drop in block hours come fall. So, no, no rumors about callbacks...

 

[Abernathy]

We cancelled flights yesterday for lack of FOs and FAs. And the ramping up hasn't even begun yet.

 

[jstyle13]

They are just gonna sturggle through the summer with minimum staffing and take a hit on the dept-0 and A-14 numbers instead of calling back guys for 2 months only to have to furlough again come fall.....

 

[Redan]

If company is able to squeeze in with PBS there will probably be even less chance of callbacks.

 

[crj567]

Scott was in the lounge yesterday and reiterated his email from a few weeks ago, make your money now because there will be a large drop in block hours come fall. So, no, no rumors about callbacks...

Yep-

Scott is such a moron! It is IMPOSSIBLE to pick anything up-all we have in open time is 3 and 4 day trips!

-Oh well-I guess this dumbass will not recognize this simple fact and we will continue to cancel due to low staffing!

 

[JumpersAway]

I've not heard anything about more furloughs in the fall. I've heard several rumors that things could be in the works to offset the 20 airframes we are parking next spring. In this business, no one knows for sure what the unfolding plan will be until it actually starts happening- the spring is an eternity away in this business. Brad continuously states that it makes "No sense for us to fly for only one carrier". Besides the more aircraft we park, the more expensive we get- not condusive to lowering our cost structure.

 

[JudgeSmails218]

I'm sitting here after another fun day as teller waiting real patiently for the call to come back. I was wondering if anyone has heard any rumors?
Thanks.

How'd you get a job as a teller? I'm furloughed too and thought that would be a decent "temp" job until recall. The places I've talked to though say I'm "overqualified"!

 

[flyboyzz1]

sucks... but Im sure they will just send us SKW guys to ATL...I hope not for both of our sanity

 

[JettBoii]

: With the merger we now have so many different types of aircraft. Are there plans to keep going with fleet simplification and weeding out the oddball aircraft?
May 19, 2009



A: While we do have a large number of fleet types, don’t forget we are also the largest airline in the world with a large number of fleet needs. We decided this past quarter to retire the 747-200 freighter fleet. We will be looking to retire/replace the DC-9s over the next three to five years. We are continuing to eliminate 50-seat regional jet flying as well. I think there will be further opportunities as we look ahead. But at the same time, new aircraft are quite expensive, which needs to be balanced against the cost of the complexity of the various fleet types we currently carry.

 

[n8avi8]

How'd you get a job as a teller? I'm furloughed too and thought that would be a decent "temp" job until recall. The places I've talked to though say I'm "overqualified"!

I think the only reason why I got the job was because I know Spanish. It is a decent job though.

 

[samballs]

Yep-

Scott is such a moron! It is IMPOSSIBLE to pick anything up-all we have in open time is 3 and 4 day trips!

-Oh well-I guess this dumbass will not recognize this simple fact and we will continue to cancel due to low staffing!

Thats the spirit, pilots furloughed, I'm going to pick up open time

 

[LazyLightnin']

Thats the spirit, pilots furloughed, I'm going to pick up open time

You really think captains' open time has any bearing on furloughed FO's?

 

[crj567]

Thats the spirit, pilots furloughed, I'm going to pick up open time

I don't do open time-I haven't since the furloughs happened. I am just pointing out the intelligence level we are dealing with from our fearless D.O.

 

[samballs]

You really think captains' open time has any bearing on furloughed FO's?

Yes, if there was a need for more Capt's then there would be a need for more FO's.

 

[JettBoii]

Those 50 seaters are hx. Delta wants nothing to do with them. They will furlough in the fall and so will we. The economy is not going to get any better. Being negative? No. Just realistic. Sucks for those that are layed off. Sucks for those that will be. Sucks for those that are 5 year F/O's that will be 6 year F/O's and maybe even 7. Think differently? Nobody knows. Dont think that you do. I hate it. So does everyone else that is waiting to upgrade or be recalled. Keep your teller job. May be better in the long run.

 

[CFI2766]

You really think captains' open time has any bearing on furloughed FO's?

Noooo, but the fact that IPs are flying the line as FOs, but still getting paid as captains, certainly is affecting the furloughed FO's.

Why again is this happening?

 

[rf285]

Those 50 seaters are hx. Delta wants nothing to do with them. They will furlough in the fall and so will we. The economy is not going to get any better. Being negative? No. Just realistic. Sucks for those that are layed off. Sucks for those that will be. Sucks for those that are 5 year F/O's that will be 6 year F/O's and maybe even 7. Think differently? Nobody knows. Dont think that you do. I hate it. So does everyone else that is waiting to upgrade or be recalled. Keep your teller job. May be better in the long run.

Delta as in mainline will furlough? I doubt it, costs too much now. Hope for the best for my former ASA guys.

 

[Tarzan]

Noooo, but the fact that IPs are flying the line as FOs, but still getting paid as captains, certainly is affecting the furloughed FO's.

Why again is this happening?

Yup. Bunch of BS. If you are getting paid to be a CA, get your sorry tail in the left and act like it. If you are not competent enough because you've spent your whole life in the training department, get paid FO pay.

 

[N1VIBS]

Noooo, but the fact that IPs are flying the line as FOs, but still getting paid as captains, certainly is affecting the furloughed FO's.

Why again is this happening?

The main reason is the contract allows it. Some IP's are bidding FO lines because they can get there top choices. As Captains they would not be senior enough to hold what they want. Fair? As I said before the contract and company allows it. Lets be honest, if any of us were relatively junior ip's, we would probably do the same thing. Not saying I like it, but I can certainly understand it.

 

[sweptback]

The main reason is the contract allows it. Some IP's are bidding FO lines because they can get there top choices. As Captains they would not be senior enough to hold what they want. Fair? As I said before the contract and company allows it. Lets be honest, if any of us were relatively junior ip's, we would probably do the same thing. Not saying I like it, but I can certainly understand it.

I believe the IPs were told to bid FO lines because of the shortage of FOs (something to do with furloughing maybe?) Also, there's not exactly a lot of training going on right now...

 

[Texx]

The main reason is the contract allows it. Some IP's are bidding FO lines because they can get there top choices. As Captains they would not be senior enough to hold what they want. Fair? As I said before the contract and company allows it. Lets be honest, if any of us were relatively junior ip's, we would probably do the same thing. Not saying I like it, but I can certainly understand it.

From one IP, they are being told / assigned to the right seat. Not by their choice.

 

[OCP]

From one IP, they are being told / assigned to the right seat. Not by their choice.

I'll second that.

 

[enuffalready]

question...

if an IP bids a line and is junior to me, does he get it ahead of me as an FO?

 

[CFI2766]

question...

if an IP bids a line and is junior to me, does he get it ahead of me as an FO?

The way I read the contract; no, they should not. I don't believe that there are any IP's left that are junior enough to put an existing 200 FO in that situation, though. I could, and probably am, be wrong on this.