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You guys are making me look like a genius. Thanx! B19

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You guys are all making me look like a genius.

ALL OF YOU STATED THERE WOULD BE NO JOB CUTS AT NETJETS BECAUSE THE CLEINTELE WAS SO RICH THEY COULD WITHSTAND ANY DOWNTURN IN THE ECONOMY.

Guess I was right again, and you union mongers were wrong again.

The union has done nothing but concede that the contract was too expensive and they were forced to find a way to reduce staffing to pay for the “industry leading contract”.

I’m not looking foolish here, this is exactly what I stated would happen. Is it a different method? Yep, but there will still be jobs lost, union and non-union, families will be hurt.

While the idea normally only happens in a non-union arena, the concept of buyouts isn’t new. Before all of you have a group hug with each other, you really should let it play out to see of the results match in reality what they do on paper. If they don’t get the numbers they need, it will get fugly.

Over the many years (and recent months) I have stated:

Unions will sacrifice pilot and non-pilot jobs before they will concede pay.

Usually, it’s the bottom third, and while this is creative, this is nothing more than a very expensive buyout that in a best case scenario will avoid ugly labor action if it works. The union hasn’t conceded a nickel of pay, thus as I have previously stated, a larger amount of jobs will be lost than could have happened if the union had done something like this AND did a good faith bargaining agreement to reduce compensation. This is all once sided. The last time I saw this, the first round worked, the remaining round created a horrible environment because future packages are not as lucrative. The method is different, but I stated the union would not concede pay to save jobs and I was right.

The success of a contract can only be judged at the conclusion of the contract.

So far, I see that the industry leading contract has failed because the union needed to come up with a way to work something out with the company to prevent the traditional furloughs from happening. The plan is now just being executed. If the contract was everything you guys said it would be, not a single pilot would be facing any time off via a voluntary or involuntary layoff. The contact failed as jobs are being lost.

None of you care about the financial health of the company or support worker’s families that support you.

Not one of you has said a word about your non-pilot coworkers and what is happening with them. Why? Union greed and selfishness. Not a one of you cares about the financial health of Netjets, all you care about is what you are going to get out of it. This process will not be deemed a success unless the next quarterly statement shows that NJ has contributed profitably to the bottom line of B-H. If not, the contract has failed.

I stated in early January that I has heard as many as 50 airplanes were going to be parked.

ALL OF YOU told me I was wrong. I guess my source was correct, and while the final count isn’t in yet, once again.. I had advanced info you didn’t have. I was right, and well.. once again, you were wrong.
 
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That actually took a day longer than I thought it would..........




Nothing like revisionist history. I've noticed it's more prevalent in politicians, old people, talking head tv types, and paid, er, em, "consultants"........
 
Sorry Dime. I was typing while you were. I'll be quiet now. You're right of course.
 
You can't handle the truth...

Please Do Not Post Anything Past This Post.....Please

That's right Dimeline.. you be a good union boy and attempt to silence the reality. You've never been able to handle the truth before, and I don't expect you to handle it now.
 
The people taking the buy out are only getting a portion of their pay, thus saving the company money. They are all senior enough that even if there was a furlough most of them would be okay.

They are making this choice because it is giving them a rare oppurtunity to retire and not touch their own retirement for 3 years.

The company didn't have to do this. They could have just furloughed as many pilots as they wanted too, union or not.

Do this forum a favor and vaporize.
 
A legend in his own mind...
 
Just so everyone understands, B19 does not work at NJA and does not know the details. His observations are erroneous and incorrect. Idiot big mouth.
 
You people can't deal with reality, can you?

Just so everyone understands, B19 does not work at NJA and does not know the details. His observations are erroneous and incorrect. Idiot big mouth.


Everything I've said is true and is happening right now. While the solution is creative, Netjets is the one that bears the brunt of the cost. I see nothing in any of the package where the union is conceding anythihng.

So, what is incorrect?

That the price of the "industry leading contract" exceeds what the company can afford causing creating solutions?

Y'all said it couldn't happen. It is!

Unions are asking members to sacrifice (Oh, they are calling it volunteer, but in reality they are asking for pilots to give their jobs up and take temporary layoffs) before they will concede pay. NJ is picking up the tab, not the union.

Classic twist on an old subject.

The success of a contract can only be judged at the conclusion of the contract.

Only a few days into this and all of you are calling it a success? And who is a success for? If the quarterly report doesn't show a profit as a result.. it failed.


None of you care about the financial health of the company or support worker’s families that support you.

Crickets.. nothing from any of you... YOU DON'T CARE.


I stated in early January that I has heard as many as 50 airplanes were going to be parked.

Are airplanes not being parked? When I asked, all of you said that was impossible.

I can add to this list, and at some point in the near future will... but everything above I can provide posts to where all of you inexperienced wanna be managers said it couldn't happen. It is happening, just like the frist wave in the legacy carriers in 2001 and 2002. That got ugly then, and my prediction is that the nirvana you think you are getting will implode.

The contract is too expensive.
 

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