On Mondy, B19 will look even more foolish...

[FLYLOW22]

Is it possible?

 

[Pervis]

Is it possible?

Why do you guys even engage him or promote his dialogue? It's like trying to convince Charles Manson he's wrong.

 

[jegermeister]

What makes B19 so dangerous is the fact the he has half truths to back him up. It's for this same reason that any other extreme (political or religious) gains support.

His premise is that unions cripple businesses. In it's extreme, he's right. But for the most part, a unoin is nothing more than a safety valve for the workers of a given business.

I have always felt that if management treated it's employees fairly, then their employees wouldn't feel it necessary to give up a portion of their income to another party.

As far as Monday goes, it's just another day. The company will do what it needs to do for both itself and its employees. I'm proud to be part of a company that will take the steps needed to remain at the top of the fractional industry.

 

[SKYLAWYER]

For those of us in the dark what is the significance of Monday and B19?

 

[av8trinabarrel]

Amen brother....Sitting 250 from the bottom, I am more than a little curious too see what happens tomorrow!

 

[jegermeister]

For those of us in the dark what is the significance of Monday and B19?

B19 = He's currently in management at a fractional trying to ward off a union.

Monday = NetJets will release it's efforts to mitigate the current economic situation.

 

[fischman]

Hmm. Looks like NJASAP is showing it's "true colors" as the company tries to weather financial downturns. Isn't that what B19 said unions don't do? Is it POSSIBLE he is wrong AGAIN???

 

[netjetwife]

He is wrong in his claims that NJASAP and Management would only work together during good financial times and the partnership would fall apart if the economy did. That said, as hard as both sides worked to come up with feasible and fair proposals, that is only half the battle. The NJ pilots and their families (the true heart of the Union) will still need to step up and do their part if this unprecedented plan is to work.

I believe that the same sense of camaraderie that has brought us all to this point will be demonstrated again. We have all seen that going thru tough times together builds solidarity and now those pilots/families that joined NJA recently are going to have the opportunity to help write the history of this amazing group/company. NJW

 

[bizicmo]

What makes B19 so dangerous is the fact the he has half truths to back him up. It's for this same reason that any other extreme (political or religious) gains support.

His premise is that unions cripple businesses. In it's extreme, he's right. But for the most part, a unoin is nothing more than a safety valve for the workers of a given business.

I have always felt that if management treated it's employees fairly, then their employees wouldn't feel it necessary to give up a portion of their income to another party.

As far as Monday goes, it's just another day. The company will do what it needs to do for both itself and its employees. I'm proud to be part of a company that will take the steps needed to remain at the top of the fractional industry.

I agree unions do cripple airlines. If they had slaves instead just imagine the profit margin.

 

[netjetwife]

Good one, Biz!

 

[Photoflight]

and now those pilots/families that joined NJA recently are going to have the opportunity to help write the history of this amazing group/company. NJW

For some reason this reminds me of a WWII movie. The russian commander giving his kids a peptalk just before he sends them on a massive human wave attack.


I have no idea whats happening monday...but hopefully there is no bad news involved.

 

[JungleJett]

For some reason this reminds me of a WWII movie. The russian commander giving his kids a peptalk just before he sends them on a massive human wave attack.

And it worked..didnt it?

As for whats coming, instead of coming on here and claiming guarantees, how about we wait and see what goes down. God forbid someone on here have to eat their words.

 

[captain dad]

I have no idea whats happening monday...but hopefully there is no bad news involved.

Nope. All good.

 

[netjetwife]

What a strange thought, Photo... Better put down the TV remote... Actually, considering that pilots usually get furloughed without any other plans being tried first, a joint list of alternatives is good news.

I realize that many new NJ pilots weren't there, and may not have heard of some of the Union camaraderie-building events that took place before they were hired (picketing, bypass pay bid (thanks guys!) IBB etc) nor did they get to watch the Labor Management Relations Program cautiously begin (much of it in Training) and gradually flourish-- a meeting at a time. I'm just making the observation that another chapter in the group's history is beginning with new names on the list.

JJ, I'd be shocked if the joint proposals aren't presented tomorrow. It is a certainty/guarantee that both sides put a lot of effort into the project. Obviously, how much participation it gets is yet to be seen, but going on previous experience, I think the NJ pilotgroup will step up as they did in the past.

The NJ pilots and their families have repeatedly demonstrated that when they stand together individual efforts are multiplied many times over with far-reaching results.

 

[HiSpeedFlyer]

Welcome Back, NJW, been a long time. I hope all is well.

Tomorrow will be an interesting day. B has no idea where this path leads, and it'll be a shame that he will try to spin it in another direction, like it was NJASAP's fault we got here in the first place.

Looking forward to others opinions tomorrow, as I said, it will be verrrrry interesting.