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jegermeister said:
B19 = He's currently in management at a fractional trying to ward off a union.

Monday = NetJets will release it's efforts to mitigate the current economic situation.
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Thanks. Best of luck to you guys.
 
Abbey said:
My feeble brain tells me this is just a fancy voluntary furlough chance before the involuntary round. At least, though, it sounds as if their might be some good options for many instead of the boilerplate "who doesn't want to work for awhile?" that is typical.

My guess is that less than 50 will take the offer to leave permanetly. Most people work because they need the paycheck, insurance, retirement......they need the job. Of those very few that have other income streams such as parents, in-laws, a side business; they would have quit when the economy was good.

Who knows. I might be surprised. I hope there isn't ramapant disappointment.
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The package is a menu of options. Some are more "life changing" than others (e.g., early outs v. leaves of absence). Success is not going to be judged by participation in any one component, rather by overall participation in all the options. Each option provides a benefit to the pilot taking that option (e.g., more time off, ability to retire earlier than planned, etc.). As a result of the whole package, the hope is to also mitigate furloughs/downgrades.

We are asking each pilot to carefully review the package and see what might work for him-/herself and his/her family. If a pilot finds something desirable -- GREAT! If not, no problem.

Happy reading!
 
Please, please, please....keep this info off of here. Some numbnuts will certainly feel like it is their "obligation" to post it here...but let's keep it internal.
 
BeeDubya said:
The package is a menu of options. Some are more "life changing" than others (e.g., early outs v. leaves of absence). Success is not going to be judged by participation in any one component, rather by overall participation in all the options. Each option provides a benefit to the pilot taking that option (e.g., more time off, ability to retire earlier than planned, etc.). As a result of the whole package, the hope is to also mitigate furloughs/downgrades.

We are asking each pilot to carefully review the package and see what might work for him-/herself and his/her family. If a pilot finds something desirable -- GREAT! If not, no problem.

Happy reading!
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Just what do you think you are doing!!!!!!!!! :smash:

Are you a NJA pilot? If so, then you feel comfortable posting what is obviously internal information on public site?

Not Cool. :confused:
 
It's my personal rule not to discuss things until the pilots bring it up first so I welcome his posts.

Beedubya, you've just become my ace. If ever questioned I'm gonna say, "Hey, he started it!" :D

Seriously, B, nice to see you posting here.
 
bchjetdrvr said:
Just what do you think you are doing!!!!!!!!! :smash:

Are you a NJA pilot? If so, then you feel comfortable posting what is obviously internal information on public site?

Not Cool. :confused:
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Why not???? You're all too willing to post every other detail and toot your own horns (facade that it so often is) at every opportunity...Obviously THIS TIME its not so rosy...of course the spin on here will say otherwise, why they all cry in their soup on the internal board.

The post by Abbey is likely most accurate...and no one will do early outs and vol leaves in this economy.

WHY are people STILL posting to B19???? This board never changes.
 
Voice Of Reason said:
Why not???? You're all too willing to post every other detail and toot your own horns (facade that it so often is) at every opportunity...Obviously THIS TIME its not so rosy...of course the spin on here will say otherwise, why they all cry in their soup on the internal board.

The post by Abbey is likely most accurate...and no one will do early outs and vol leaves in this economy.

WHY are people STILL posting to B19???? This board never changes.
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calm down sally.....my bet is 150 AT LEAST.....those numbers are just too good. I'm thinking I may be one of them.
 
Meanwhile, at NJI: crickets......chirp.....chirp.

No ICOM, nothing on the website. Had to read the data on the NJASAP site. Supposedly a "comparable package" but so far: nada from the swamp.

On a side note, if I were over 60 I'd be faxing my paperwork right now. Smoking deal in my opinion on all fronts. Good for the company and good for the employees.
 
Guys are your numbers a total guess or just the early out option? Since we're speculating....I could see that range for separations, but surely voluntary leaves will go much higher? No crystal ball here. That's just my take on it as a wife looking at the economy.

GSD, I was aware of the hard work done on both sides so your reaction is what I was hoping to see. Surely your comparable package is on its way. Keep us posted, please. We're all in this together.
 
Put it this way. I think numbers are gonna be great. I'm taking the year off with 33 percent pay. And I was not even considering it. I can live on that and spend the WHOLE year with my family. Once in a lifetime opportunity there.

Wow. What a great package. I'm guessing about 500 to 600 will take the reduced schedules, LOAs, or early outs.:)
 
Without posting the internal info, all I can say is WOW. This is a first. A job well done between our UNION and our MANAGEMENT. I applaud both sides..
 
In total, I'd say the title of this thread is spot on......
 

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