Status of Flight Options Including Fleet Plans

[B19 Flyer]

What a horrible example to choose.

I'm certain Capt. Sullenberger would disagree entirely with your conclusion.

What a horrible example to choose. He has already stated otherwise, thus I disagree with what your opinion.

From the moment the union allowed him to speak, he praised all the training and experience he received leading up to that moment. He never once has stated that there was anything special about what he did. He stated he was just doing his job as he was trained to do.

He would be the first one to thank all of his instructors and mentors for teaching him what was necessary to make those split second decisions.

All those training programs were developed by the people you folks disrespect on these boards every day. Management.

 

[B19 Flyer]

One more time...

Fear and Greed.

Those are the two most basic emotions that management LOVES to use against a pilot group. Using those two emotions management can push through ANYTHING!

Management splits the group into thirds. If they can appeal to 2 of the thirds they win.

Let's say they want paycuts. They use greed to appeal to the top third. They say, "if you vote for paycuts we can secure financing for bigger planes. You'll make MORE MONEY!" So the top third votes in the paycuts knowing they will benifit with bigger equipment and hence...more money.

Management uses fear on the bottom third. They say, "hey, if we don't get paycuts then pilots are going to lose their jobs!". The bottom third think about the prospect of standing in an unemployment line and vote for the paycut.

The only rational and objective group is the middle third but they are out voted 2 to 1 and guess what happens? The pilot group votes in their own paycuts!

This technique can be used for anything. Beware!

Good luck Flops. I mean it...

gp.

OK, this is the post I responded to that supposedly sent the thread off track. I think it was way off track long before my first post.
If you guys can figure out how this post relates to the thread, go for it.

 

[brokeflyer]

OK, this is the post I responded to that supposedly sent the thread off track. I think it was way off track long before my first post.
If you guys can figure out how this post relates to the thread, go for it.

cause im a awesome netjets captain....and I say so.

 

[AeroBoy]

What a horrible example to choose. He has already stated otherwise, thus I disagree with what your opinion.

From the moment the union allowed him to speak, he praised all the training and experience he received leading up to that moment. He never once has stated that there was anything special about what he did. He stated he was just doing his job as he was trained to do.

He would be the first one to thank all of his instructors and mentors for teaching him what was necessary to make those split second decisions.

All those training programs were developed by the people you folks disrespect on these boards every day. Management.

B19, as usual you distort the facts. Sully said in press interviews it was his "glider" training that helped him bring in the deadstick Airbus. Are you seriously going to make the argument that US Airways pays to train every one of its pilots in a glider?

Please take that foot out of your mouth, especially after you've stepped in dog sh!t.

 

[B19 Flyer]

Nuts...

B19, as usual you distort the facts. Sully said in press interviews it was his "glider" training that helped him bring in the deadstick Airbus. Are you seriously going to make the argument that US Airways pays to train every one of its pilots in a glider?

Please take that foot out of your mouth, especially after you've stepped in dog sh!t.

I'm not distorting the facts. He had a lifetime of training that all came together at once.

Who designs training programs?

Who designed the training program that allowed him to be a glider instructor?

There is no foot in my mouth, the facts are what they are. He was a highly trained pilot that knew exactly what to do when the moment occurred.

You must be suggesting that he could have accomplished that landing with no training at all.

I'm not even going to engage this conversation, you are dumping on every pilot by your statements.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/flowcha...rger-really-saved-us-airways-flight-1549.html

Thorough training. Sullenberger may be a model aviator, but it wasn’t heroism that brought Flight 1549 down safely. It was rigorous training that’s inbred in the U.S. aviation system. Pilots have to fly for years before they can command an airliner, and even experienced pilots must routinely train in simulators and pass “check rides” at least once a year under the supervision of Federal Aviation Administration inspectors. Pilots sometimes gripe about overzealous FAA inspectors, but the oversight contributes to a culture of accountability and fastidious attention to detail in the cockpit.
For airline pilots, training focuses on dire scenarios, such as the US Airways crew encountered. “Pilots don’t spend their training time flying straight and level,” says airline pilot Lynn Spencer, author of Touching History: The Untold Story of the Drama That Unfolded in the Skies over America on 9/11. “In simulator training, we’re doing nothing but flying in all sorts of emergencies. Even emergencies become just another set of procedures when repeatedly trained.”


That was found in about 10 seconds worth of searching.

Now, you have to find something that tells me that training wasn't important on that water landing.

 

[AeroBoy]

I'm not distorting the facts. He had a lifetime of training that all came together at once.

Who designs training programs?

Who designed the training program that allowed him to be a glider instructor?

There is no foot in my mouth, the facts are what they are. He was a highly trained pilot that knew exactly what to do when the moment occurred.

You must be suggesting that he could have accomplished that landing with no training at all.

I'm not even going to engage this conversation, you are dumping on every pilot by your statements.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/flowcha...rger-really-saved-us-airways-flight-1549.html

Thorough training. Sullenberger may be a model aviator, but it wasn’t heroism that brought Flight 1549 down safely. It was rigorous training that’s inbred in the U.S. aviation system. Pilots have to fly for years before they can command an airliner, and even experienced pilots must routinely train in simulators and pass “check rides” at least once a year under the supervision of Federal Aviation Administration inspectors. Pilots sometimes gripe about overzealous FAA inspectors, but the oversight contributes to a culture of accountability and fastidious attention to detail in the cockpit.
For airline pilots, training focuses on dire scenarios, such as the US Airways crew encountered. “Pilots don’t spend their training time flying straight and level,” says airline pilot Lynn Spencer, author of Touching History: The Untold Story of the Drama That Unfolded in the Skies over America on 9/11. “In simulator training, we’re doing nothing but flying in all sorts of emergencies. Even emergencies become just another set of procedures when repeatedly trained.”


That was found in about 10 seconds worth of searching.

Now, you have to find something that tells me that training wasn't important on that water landing.

Thanks for giving me Lynn Spencer opinion of Sullenberger's feat. I gave it 10 seconds of my time.

Now here's some ACTUAL quotes from Sully, and he isn't singing the praises of airline management, either.

 

[B19 Flyer]

Thanks for giving me Lynn Spencer opinion of Sullenberger's feat. I gave it 10 seconds of my time.

Now here's some ACTUAL quotes from Sully, and he isn't singing the praises of airline management, either.

His very first statements talks about his years of training.

Who designs the training?

Management.

 

[brokeflyer]

well really "I" designed the training. The FAA came to me with seveal aviation manager to develop a training program for flight.

All of you have done it

you're welcome.

 

[993_Pilot]

His very first statements talks about his years of training.

Who designs the training?

Management.

Actually, at most companies, the training department is made up of mostly line pilots with probably a few pilots who have lost their medical and would rather be flying the line.

 

[dime line]

well really "I" designed the training. The FAA came to me with seveal aviation manager to develop a training program for flight.

All of you have done it

you're welcome.

im gonna kick your azz....the feds came to me and I designed the airplane and I wrote the far/aim. quit trying to distort the truth, your like da19.