Captain Mike Best has resigned as President of the NPA. WHAT!!!

[birdman1]

This is bad news for the pilots of AirTran Airways, but good news for Mrs. Kolski.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Depends. When is your ALPA vote??

 

[BSkin]

Depends. When is your ALPA vote??

next week

 

[Colonel Savage]

If AAI pilots are getting ready to decertify NPA, why is this bad news?

 

[scarlet]

Well the pilots here are never happy with ANYONE or ANYTHING. There are about 100-200 blowhards here that just complain all the time. I am sure they do the same at home !!

Now they want ALPA. Yeah look at Comair's and ASA's MEC just imposed money to be given into funds without the pilots agreeing to. You will pay this and no vote!!!

I would rather us fight in house then with national ALPA.

13,000 pilots on one side of airport or
1600 pilots on C and D....

Who do you think they will take care of?

If you want insurance=look up harvery watt .com

Are the blowhards going to run? Lets see what you guys can do?

 

[Lear70]

*yawn*

Same old scare tactics, Scarlet.

The pilots keep trying to put someone in office who will take a HARDLINE stance, then that person starts playing the political game.

I don't know why it's so difficult to comprehend:

NO side letters
NO givebacks
NO concessions
NO favors
NO waivers

Until there is a new T.A. on the table with substantial increases in pay and QOL and ALL the outstanding grievances are resolved.

Period. It's what the pilots want, not just a few "blowhards", as evidenced by the recalls, who wins the elections, etc. They just have to learn to keep up the hard-line stance AFTER they make it into office.

Incidentally, Scarlet, evidently you're still too new to union work to understand, but it's normally about 15-20% of the pilot group who are EVER active at ANY airline. The other 80-85% just do their job and go home, and about half of those ever even bother to vote. This pilot group is pretty par for the course in that regard.

 

[Colonel Savage]

Who is Mrs Kolski?

 

[dugan jones]

Who is Mrs Kolski?

Mr. Kolski's wife

 

[FIREMAN]

Who is Mrs Kolski?

The anti-Christ

 

[Colonel Savage]

Mr. Kolski's wife

And why would she be pleased with Captain Best's resignation as NPA President?

 

[birdman1]

Who is Mrs Kolski?

Your mom!!! No seriously, he's/she’s your mom.

 

[maxblast72]

Well the pilots here are never happy with ANYONE or ANYTHING. There are about 100-200 blowhards here that just complain all the time. I am sure they do the same at home !!

Now they want ALPA. Yeah look at Comair's and ASA's MEC just imposed money to be given into funds without the pilots agreeing to. You will pay this and no vote!!!

I would rather us fight in house then with national ALPA.

13,000 pilots on one side of airport or
1600 pilots on C and D....

Who do you think they will take care of?

If you want insurance=look up harvery watt .com

Are the blowhards going to run? Lets see what you guys can do?

My paychecks are still going to come from Airtran after the ALPA merger. ALPA really has no say on which Atlanta hubbed airline will do better economically. Bob Fornaro and Richard Anderson will determine the path each airline takes financially. ALPA will just help us negotiate a contract that is fair to both the pilots and the company.

The good news is Jet A is still south of $1.50/gallon and total RASM guidance (including the new bag fees, etc) is flat to down 1% which means Airtran is going to have a very good first quarter and probably 2009. ALPA is not going to change that.

There might be some legit arguments against ALPA, but the they are going to take care of Delta and forget Airtran isn't one of them. If Airtran pilots don't get a new improved contract, that means a lower cost structure at Airtran for Delta to compete against. Delta pilots realize this and want us to get a new better contract.

 

[scarlet]

don't know why it's so difficult to comprehend:

Lear
NO side letters- ALPA has approved many in the past
NO givebacks-Ask the Midwest Alpa pilots?
NO concessions-yeah look at the last 10 years with alpa carriers
NO favors-ASK DAL/CAL/ASA/Comair/Midwest all alpa
NO waivers-DAL MEC just approved more 76 seaters..pilots are real happy about that! Ask some.

Yeah I guess almost 14 years in the airline industry, I have not been around to much union work before. ??

 

[Lowrider717]

If Airtran pilots don't get a new improved contract, that means a lower cost structure at Airtran for Delta to compete against. Delta pilots realize this and want us to get a new better contract.

So we should take a pay cut to remain competitive against DAL? I'm confused, what is it Delta pilots realize again?

 

[zman]

scarlet I think ALPA coming to Airtran is all but a gurantee. If your truely afraid of ALPA then why dont you volunteer to be in the union. That way if you dont see something you like you can blow the whistle. Push for the Memrat to be passed after ALPA gets voted in so nothing like the MEC deal at DAL can happen without the approval of the pilot group. Honestly I really do see where everyones point of view that comes out from the anti-ALPA group. Also I can honestly say that I would like to have individuals like you be involved in the process cause you would bring the devil's advocate to the table.