Captain Mike Best has resigned as President of the NPA. WHAT!!!

[PCL_128]

take alook at the mailout we got in the mail the other day. With a few exceptions, the airlines that alpa represents suck. Sorry to be brutally honest, but thats just my opinion.

RV

Yeah, it sure would suck to have those Delta payrates. I wouldn't know what to do if I could actually afford to pay my mortgage.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Yeah, it sure would suck to have those Delta payrates. I wouldn't know what to do if I could actually afford to pay my mortgage.

Didn't you hear? Obama is going to take care of your mortgage...

 

[Scope out RJ's]

take alook at the mailout we got in the mail the other day. With a few exceptions, the airlines that alpa represents suck. Sorry to be brutally honest, but thats just my opinion.

RV

And we all know that air tran is such cream of the crop.:laugh:

Didn't you hear? Obama is going to take care of your mortgage...

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[twepilot]

maybe you should live within your means and make responsible decisions that don't over extend yourself...OR you could rely on others to take care of your ass.

RV

 

[twepilot]

ortscheid..

 

[hairball1173]

Find the Happy Place

Find that happy place and check your email TWEPILOT.

 

[SkiFishFly]

We will continue our negotiations with ALPA assistance. It should be very clear to everyone involved in the process that the AT pilots are not even going to consider relaxing scope. (well there are a few of the older idiots who still don't get this one...)
Those scope relaxations at other ALPA carriers were agreed to by their pilots. ALPA did not force it upon them. They may have failed to advise of how bad the consequences would be but they did not force it on them.
Most of us are smart enough to see that the last thing we want is any scope relaxation.

Alaska is ALPA and it sounds like they have agreed to pay and work rules improvements. Hopefully we can build on this.

 

[maxblast72]

1. MaxBlast - Of course Delta would like to see AirTran get a much improved contract; and so would the Airtran pilots, with retro pay. This will help Delta and all Major airline pilot groups achieve a better contract. That's called, "Pattern Bargaining". Will costs go up because of it? Yes, but...they can be offset by management doing 3 things:

Some guys on here think that us Airtran pilots will get no resources or help from ALPA in obtaining a new fair (pilot cost increasing) contract from management (we all know Airtran will do well in 2009 - just listen to what Fornaro told Wall Street this morning). I think that reasoning is bogus as I had said before. The Airtran pilot group is not the only pilot group that will benefit from a better contract for Airtran pilots. That is how ALPA can represent both Airtran and Delta.

I just don't understand the logic that ALPA is going to help shut Airtran down so Delta will do better. What is secret information is ALPA going to provide to Delta to ensure the demise of Airtran?

 

[Lear70]

ortscheid..

Who?

I think Hairball is right. You really need to go find a happy place...

 

[Murphy]

Can we get our ALPA lanyards in orange? It would be a good match to our call sign.

 

[Nindiri]

So what's the deal with a certain Capt over on the NPA board? The guy started off making some reasonable posts regarding ALPA, but lately, as ALPA appears certain to win, he's just about gone off the deep-end attacking anyone and anything remotely connected to ALPA.

 

[Uppercrust]

take alook at the mailout we got in the mail the other day. With a few exceptions, the airlines that alpa represents suck. Sorry to be brutally honest, but thats just my opinion.

RV

Sorry to say you guys won't be the exception!:laugh:

 

[Lear70]

So what's the deal with a certain Capt over on the NPA board? The guy started off making some reasonable posts regarding ALPA, but lately, as ALPA appears certain to win, he's just about gone off the deep-end attacking anyone and anything remotely connected to ALPA.

You mean the guy who is so concerned about an alleged "list" and this his name is "allegedly" on it and that it's "allegedly illegal" to even POSSESS such a list, and on and on and on...

That guy?

I think he's concerned over his community service requirement if it goes through. Personally, I think it's one hell of a deal, all things considered, but I digress...

 

[hairball1173]

Please help the first airline folk with this "list". The whole scary law suite aspect and why we live in the past?

 

[Lear70]

There's no lawsuit unless you are actively distributing said list in a way intended to defame, libel, or slander someone on it, or in a way to discriminate against them in any way, form, or fashion.

This does, however, preclude most people from distributing the list because,,, well,,, what else are you going to do with it in most circumstances? YOU may not be intending to do anything but see who's on it, but the next guy might be intending to use it in reciprocity for past grievances.

In this case, people "live in the past" because the only deterrent to being a Scab is the fallout from what happens if you DO cross an established picket line to fly "struck work".

Their thought is, if you make it painful enough for them, and the whole world sees what happens to them professionally and personally, people would be much less likely to Scab the next time.

This isn't to say I agree or disagree with the list, but if we ever had a strike at AirTran, even a CHAOS action, once legal and released by the courts, I'd be pretty hateful of pilots who crossed while we were trying to improve our situation in life. You can bet I'd remember who they were. Forever.

That's what the people who formed those lists were doing. To them, I imagine it's very personal. Wouldn't it be to you if YOU were the one getting shat on by your fellow pilots while you tried to make everyone's life better?

It's not the past I'm worried about; it's our future, and Scabs would be our worst enemy during a legal job action.