DAL junior Pilots sold down the river by NEW MEC

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when will our unions stop PERMANENTLY outsourcing our jobs for TEMPORARY gains?

The day our politicians begin to listen to the citizens of the USA.

 

[GogglesPisano]

If having such a "great job" could turn me into such a rabid baboon (as evidenced by your inspired previous posts,) I think I shall pass.

-So sorry.....

It seemed to get some praise. Yours?

How'd the 8-hr layover in the Hampton Inn go last night?

Dinner at Applebees taste any different?

 

[WSurf]

It seemed to get some praise. Yours?

How'd the 8-hr layover in the Hampton Inn go last night?

Dinner at Applebees taste any different?

I wouldn't go there, this could be the QOL of junior Delta pilots in the coming years.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I know that there are things in the works, but this is immaterial to what this was about. Future plans are just that, plans. It is about metal on the ramp nothing more, nothing less.

FWIW no furloughs for now. It now depends on what Sept, loads shape up to be. Now they look horrible, but people are not booking as far out.

 

[Whine Lover]

You just merged two carriers with some overlapping of routes.

In another post/news flash, it is announced that 170 gates are going away system wide due to redundancy. Well any way you slice that, fewer gates generally means fewer aircraft.

Now, your MEC has given away more mainline flying.

The U.S. Economy is still in a free -fall mode and tens of thousands of people are losing their jobs on a daily basis in this country.

Call me crazy....But, I think some pretty large furloughs are just around the corner.

Welcome to My World.


Reality Sucks.


YKMKR


P.S. - What's so wrong with Hampton Inn and/or Applebees?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Not the info I have, but I was surprised by that. If there are it will be after this summer. The longer it takes for them to pull the trigger the less likely it will be.

 

[Jonny Sacko]

Force Majeur, still prevails. They can furlough tomorrow and Monday add these RJ's to "keep the routes and business". Can someone verify this, I believe it's standard union busting 101. You must vote in membership voting on everything from here forward it sounds like. Is there a way to reverse this? Good Luck

 

[General Lee]

You just merged two carriers with some overlapping of routes.

In another post/news flash, it is announced that 170 gates are going away system wide due to redundancy. Well any way you slice that, fewer gates generally means fewer aircraft.

Now, your MEC has given away more mainline flying.

The U.S. Economy is still in a free -fall mode and tens of thousands of people are losing their jobs on a daily basis in this country.

Call me crazy....But, I think some pretty large furloughs are just around the corner.

Welcome to My World.


Reality Sucks.


YKMKR


P.S. - What's so wrong with Hampton Inn and/or Applebees?

With some overlapping routes? You mean between our hubs? And giving up gates that aren't used all of the time? Sounds like that would save money. The economy is in a free fall, just like fuel prices, which means a lot. With lower fuel we can have 1/2 the loads we had after 9-11 and still be profitable. And, 50 seat RJs are the real losers here, and they will be parked in mass. The DC9s are actually getting a raise in block hours per day, and will fly almost all the routes from ATL that RJs used to fly against Airtran 717s. I think your world and your reality is a bit cloudy.


Bye Bye--Genreral Lee

 

[General Lee]

Where's General Lee to chime in on this?

He probably vomited alittle in his mouth when he saw the title of the thread.


Damn, I was really hoping Delta ALPA wouldnt allow this. Oh well, we are our own worst enemies.

I do find it a bit ridiculous, but a protection none the less for the junior pilots. I think Moak and company are walking a fine line, and will be smacked if they try more stuff like this without polling the pilots first. I think we already had some protection for those bottom 400 guys since they all would have gone down to Compass, costing the company money for training. This maybe was a protection for the Compass pilots instead. Could they use soup de jour or forced maneur on the junior guys without taking out the seats? I doubt that. It would be expensive to furlough in my mind, since they would have to take out the seats, and still train everyone for Compass. Delta tried to get Force Majeur enforced in the past and lost, with Richard Bloch too.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[hockeypilot44]

I do find it a bit ridiculous, but a protection none the less for the junior pilots. I think Moak and company are walking a fine line, and will be smacked if they try more stuff like this without polling the pilots first. I think we already had some protection for those bottom 400 guys since they all would have gone down to Compass, costing the company money for training. This maybe was a protection for the Compass pilots instead. Could they use soup de jour or forced maneur on the junior guys without taking out the seats? I doubt that. It would be expensive to furlough in my mind, since they would have to take out the seats, and still train everyone for Compass.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Walking a fine line? They crossed it. We are f*cked. Even if there are no furloughs, we might not hire for 20 years. The only aircraft that will be left on the mainline certificate are the wide-bodies. I thought we had learned our lesson and were done giving up scope. The company blatantly proved that it does not believe in our current scope agreement and we just agreed with them. When this new agreement gets maxed out, the company will just do the same thing. We were tested and failed miserably. F*ck everyone and everything. This career is f*cked. ALPA, Delta, the regionals, etc. are all contributing to making this a sh!tty job. I'm done being optimistic. I am going to start pushing for a decertification drive. We need an in-house union that actually REPRESENTS its pilots and not its own interests.