Why don't the regionals bring back PFT?

[Browntothebone]

... even if it pays $200k

Good for you. Have fun at pinnacle.

 

[Browntothebone]

PCL is being defensive. He didn't initially get your sentiment, so he claims it's flame. I think it's an interesting topic to discuss.

I do too. I'd be interested in finding out how many of you, currently at the regionals, would pay to go to an airline like Delta or some other legacy that most of you had your sights on when you started flight training.

 

[DoinTime]

I do too. I'd be interested in finding out how many of you, currently at the regionals, would pay to go to an airline like Delta or some other legacy that most of you had your sights on when you started flight training.

The percentage of regional pilots willing to pay to go to DAL is probably about the same percentage as UPS FOs willing to buy the left seat or a better schedule.

Whether we like it or not a certain percentage of humans are going to be willing to stab others in the back to move up. Its not unique to pilots and it will never go away. If you are not one that is predisposed to this type of behavior, take pride in your personal accomplishments and don't envy the advancement of others who don't follow your personal morals.

 

[Jetjockey]

Browntothebown, (aka full of the brown stuff!) Lame attempt at flamebait.

 

[Goose Egg]

I do too. I'd be interested in finding out how many of you, currently at the regionals, would pay to go to an airline like Delta or some other legacy that most of you had your sights on when you started flight training.

You can count me out of that. If you think that I would pay one more $0.01 to be gone all the time and forced to work every holiday just so I can have some lame airline job and strut around the terminal in a lame sub commander get-up, think again. The sooner I can get out of this smoking crater of an industry, the better--I'm certainly not going to pay more money to stay in it! And while I may have had my sights set on a legacy when I started my flight training, I was over it by the time I hit my instrument rating. I love the "flying" part of airline flying, but defnitely not the "airline" part.

And that goes for UPS too.

-Goose

 

[Goose Egg]

Good for you. Have fun at pinnacle.

And might I add, the recent proliferation of obtuse comments such as this one are a sad indicator of the rapidly increasing worthlessness of flightinfo.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

You can count me out of that. If you think that I would pay one more $0.01 to be gone all the time and forced to work every holiday just so I can have some lame airline job and strut around the terminal in a lame sub commander get-up, think again. The sooner I can get out of this smoking crater of an industry, the better--I'm certainly not going to pay more money to stay in it! And while I may have had my sights set on a legacy when I started my flight training, I was over it by the time I hit my instrument rating. I love the "flying" part of airline flying, but defnitely not the "airline" part.

And that goes for UPS too.

-Goose

Wow...sounds like you've changed your opinion quite a bit in the last several months at SkyWest?

 

[COOPERVANE]

Wow...sounds like you've changed your opinion quite a bit in the last several months at SkyWest?

Instant gratification strikes again. Everybody who didn't get on with a major by 25 should just quit right now.

Buh bye!!

 

[outtahere]

I can tell you how many would buy a job at Delta, just look at how many have a 737 type before even getting an interview at Southwest.

 

[Browntothebone]

Instant gratification strikes again. Everybody who didn't get on with a major by 25 should just quit right now.

Buh bye!!

It's not fair. I'm sure his aviation university/flight school "promised" him, that with their degree, he would be on with a major by now.

 

[Goose Egg]

It's not fair. I'm sure his aviation university/flight school "promised" him, that with their degree, he would be on with a major by now.

Wow...sounds like you've changed your opinion quite a bit in the last several months at SkyWest?

Nobody promised me anything, and especially not that I would be a major by now. Even if they had, I would not have believed them, and I wouldn't have cared because that's not really what I set out to do anyway.

I suppose I have changed my opinion... not necessarily of SkyWest... still a great company. And I absolutely LOVE the flying part--that should be stressed. Flying the Bro is FUN! I love it.

Generally, when people get on this board and complain, it's usually because of low pay and tough working conditions. I suppose that's in line with my gripe with the industry... however, I think for me it's just a matter of all the time away from home--That's one thing that they did not mention or prepare me for in flight school. And I made the mistake of figuring that I would get used to all the time away, but after about a year and a half, I haven't gotten used to it at all, in fact, I dread leaving it more and more as time goes on.

Therefore, with that in mind, PFTing for a job at a major seems absolutely rediculous to me. As it is, I have an exit strategy. I absolutely love flying for a living, and I'd love to stay with it, but what I've found is that some people are "airline" people, and some are not. I'm not.

-Goose

 

[Flyer1015]

Good for you. Have fun at pinnacle.

Why are you being so pi$$y?

 

[Way2Broke]

Yawn.....

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

The airlines would, and will use PFT if it benefits them.

Currently, there is a pilot shortage of low-time pilots and/or people willing to start learning to fly. At the same time, in the US, there is an excess of experienced pilots.

The student pilot starts, commercial pilots, ATPs, etc. in the US have been going down, down, down for the past 5-10 years, which is a big reason why Age 65 passed.

This trend is probably accelerating now, which will make it more difficult for airlines to instigate PFT at for low-time guys.

It would make more sense for the "good" airlines to start PFT for experienced pilots, from a numbers perspective.

If you have experience in a "modern" aircraft, or certain turboprops, there are TONS of jobs available in Asia (Airbus, 777, 747, 737, ERJs, CRJs, ATRs, Q400, biz jets, etc., etc.).

cliff
GRB
PS-I could've PFTd at Comair in about '92 or so, but I didn't. Probably a bad move, career-wise, on my part.

 

[Browntothebone]

Maybe the airlines should start a PFR program... Pay For Recall from furlough. You can come back to work sooner if you pay some money.