~~~^~~~
Well-known member
- Joined
- Dec 21, 2001
- Posts
- 6,137
Hmmm, I had not ever heard a flow through concept made it that far. I thought it got killed by some rather insensitive remarks by ASA's then MEC Chair in a meeting with C. Giambusso.Your right, RJDC was all about scope, so long as it included ASA and CMR. My point is, where does it stop? What about the Mesa pilots, CHQ pilots, etc.? Where is the line?
In 2002 some of us at ASA still thought we had a play and we went around with information on that. Furloughed Delta pilots come down and fly our equipment, if they so desire, at their Delta DOH and in turn all ASA pilots be stapled to the bottom of the Delta list when vacancies there occur if the they so desire. Therefore those who wanna go can go and those who don't simply don't and the slot goes on to the next pilot. If this had occured the Delta pilots may have been willing to include ASA in their scope, not merge but include, therefore making sure that their own would have something to fly. It's a glorified flow-through, yes, but it was something. Instead some hard core RJDC folks didn't like this because scope was predatory and needed to be abolished all together and they should have a number at Delta.
Fins, you are a smart guy, I know, but the core of the followers of the RJDC that sent money loyally every month were in it for one reason, a number at Delta.
Cheers
I like your idea and in fact, the Delta guys who came over where some really excellent pilots with great attitudes.
Ultimately, it was up to ALPA and Representatives of the respective airlines. I'd have drawn the line at wholly owned carriers represented by ALPA.
While I don't like flow through agreements in principle, I like forming bridges. IMHO we made a mistake by not trying to staple the wholly owned ALPA carriers in the DAL/NWA merger. If the Compass deal works out as a way to get them on the list, I'll be happy.
Instead we've really opened a pandora's box with the NWA scope. I'm concerned about the codeshare with MidWest being used, as well as Alaska, to virtually outsource DC9's, MD88's and 737 sized jets.
This same operator, Republic, will be flying Delta passengers with non-permitted aircraft.