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Maybe. Which one should I apply to? You have give away Billions in revenue and countless jobs to RJ feeders, enlighten me oh wise one.

Oh how short your memory is old wise one.....
Million dollar losses, code sharing, contract negotiations stalling, stock price down 50%. Looks like you should watch where you throw those stones in that glass house sport!

Southwest Airlines reports first quarterly loss in 17 years

Southwest Airlines posted its first quarterly loss in more than 17 years Thursday, after being hit by an accounting charge to reduce the value of its fuel hedging contracts.
The Dallas-based airline said it lost $120 million during the quarter, after having to record a $247 million charge to reflect the drop in value of its hedging contracts, which allow it to purchase jet fuel in advance at predetermined prices.
Under accounting rules, the airline is required to reduce the value of the contracts on the books if fuel prices are falling.
Not including the one-time charge, the airline reported a profit of $69 million for the third quarter, compared with a profit of $162 million in the same period a year ago.
Gary Kelly, the airline's chief executive, said the fuel contracts are still an overall benefit to the airline. He said they saved the carrier has saved $1.3 billion on fuel prices during the first three quarters of this year.
He also said that a decline in jet fuel prices is a positive development for the airline despite the accounting charges.
"I can assure you that falling energy prices is a great thing for Southwest Airlines," he said in a conference call with reporters Thursday morning. He noted that the airline still purchases some of its fuel at market prices.
Kelly said that revenues were strong during the quarter, up nearly 12 percent compared with the third quarter of 2007. But he said the airline is worried about how the slowing economy will impact demand for travel.
"We're very concerned about the economy, especially after the first of the year," he said. Bookings for the rest of the year "look fine," he said, "but certainly for next year, I'm not willing to make any predictions."
The airline stands to benefit, Kelly said, from moves by competitors to cut capacity. Other airlines are cutting the number of available seats by 15 percent in markets where they compete with Southwest.
"That's a very significant shock absorber for declining demand in this recession," he said.
He also pointed to Southwest's lack of fees on items like checked bags or reserved seats. The airline has been advertising heavily in recent months as the "no-fee" carrier.
"I'm very confident we are winning new customers," he said. Employees tell him of many cases "where customers say they are coming to us specifically because we aren't charging the baggage fees."
 
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What I find extraordinary is that we still have to explain this to some folks. Regardless of your background (mil vs civ) this should be a no brainer to anybody that has paid any attention to the industry over the last ten years.

BTW, I agree with the previous poster that talked about voting as if you were the junior guy on property. If a vote isn't good for almost everybody then it isn't a good vote.
 
Oh how short your memory is old wise one.....
Million dollar losses, code sharing, contract negotiations stalling, stock price down 50%. Looks like you should watch where you throw those stones in that glass house sport!

Southwest Airlines reports first quarterly loss in 17 years

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Yes, all the above is truely unfortunate. I hope our company as a whole has reversed the trend and is making wise forward-looking decisions. Definetly a wake up call for our company. Our pilot group will have to make smart moves very soon. I just hope we can think with our brains and not our emotions.

I bet you company has lost Billions.
I bet your company has a code share partener.
I bet your company has had stalled contract talks.
I bet your stock is down greater than 50%.
What's this about stones and kettles and stuff?
 
Gup I think Cola is fair and have never opposed Cola. The company offered Cola and the BOD turned it down.
 
H. upman "churchill" what are you smoking? It came from a good source, one that doesn't lie.
 
Gup I think Cola is fair and have never opposed Cola. The company offered Cola and the BOD turned it down.

The BOD hasn't voted on anything yet.

Who is your source??? Len Legge???:laugh: Say hello to him for me.
 
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H. upman "churchill" what are you smoking? It came from a good source, one that doesn't lie.


I bet that source is the same idiot who told Tanker Clown he would fit in here....you both are from the same mold.....and I mean the growth under my toilet.
 
Ben, you understand that you have been called out to post this same crap that you are spewing here on the SWAPA forum, Right? I must say you are a gutless wonder boy hiding behind BH. Come outta that closet boy and let us see your face. You have my word that your identity will not be released here on FI.com
 
I personally spoke with the VP in PHX two months ago. He said the company offered no COLA and raises tied to earnings that when researched would have triggered once in the past eight years. Once during the most profitable time in our history. If you know something else I'm all ears.

Gup
 
ASA, Ben works here (says "light twins for SWA" in his info box).
Gup, with the economy being so shaky and things in the industry changing so much yeay to year, why would we want a long contract? I usually hear 3 years max...I know negotiations are a pain, but I don't think we want to be tied to anything too long that we negotiate while the economy's so bad.

My friend if we had a 3 years contract it would expire in 9 months because we're already over 2 years since the amendable date of our existing agreement. A 5 year contract? No problem that one expires 3 years from LAST September.

Gup
 
Even though I like the way you think GuppyWN, I think the new contract will be for X number of years from "Date of Signing" and not from the last amendable contract date. I may be wrong though....
 

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