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Despite the breakdown, the union would have to meet several conditions of federal law that could take months before workers could go on strike. Union officials did not raise the prospect of a strike on Thursday.
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Just another deceptful thread title.
 
Didn't the SWA F/A's almost go on strike a few years ago? Thought I recall their neg's not being very "labor fiendly"
 
All the rampers want is what CAL pilots make......
 
I just hope the pilots take what the company gives. I hear some nonsense about retro pay. That's BS. If I were there, I'd vote for the company offer. They need to keep the company healthy and growing. I only got a few more years before retirement...and I want to be hired at a growing company. I really don't want to sit any reserve.
 
Sorry to disappoint everybody BUT..... this is part of the process. Not the first time nor the last time. They are not that far apart and it will be settled. Same with the pilots, and the F/As. We just hope all of the other compainies labor groups can grow some balls so that we can get some decent pay raises in the future.

Who would have thought we would be on the top looking down... WAY down.....

Also TC why don't you take your foolishness someplace else. Obviously you are just here to yank peoples chain. Hopefully everybody has realized this by now.
 
Tanker Clown said:
I just hope the pilots take what the company gives. I hear some nonsense about retro pay. That's BS. If I were there, I'd vote for the company offer. They need to keep the company healthy and growing. I only got a few more years before retirement...and I want to be hired at a growing company. I really don't want to sit any reserve.
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Mark the Village Idiot down for a yes vote........only problem is he doesn't get one!

DG
 
Richard Gozinya said:
Mark the Village Idiot down for a yes vote........only problem is he doesn't get one!

DG
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You don't know your own association. Ask other pilots. They all will tell you that they'll vote in the first thing they see. There's a lot of retired mil folks like there, and they don't want to rock the boat.

Ask around.

p.s. I'll have a vote in no time.
 
Big difference between rampers and pilots. Rampers got nuthin' to lose. Those that don't believe me weren't here in 2000. Ugly.

Gup
 
Tanker Clown said:
I just hope the pilots take what the company gives. I hear some nonsense about retro pay. That's BS. If I were there, I'd vote for the company offer. They need to keep the company healthy and growing. I only got a few more years before retirement...and I want to be hired at a growing company. I really don't want to sit any reserve.
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A$$ CLOWN!!
 
Voice Of Reason said:
Wow...I thought everyone was happy at SWA.
Hopefully everything can be worked out.
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"Everyone" is mighty broad. Most of the pilots for sure are happy. I'm overall happy but certainly feel two years with no contract is too long. I don't need a huge raise but I will vote no for any contract that does not have retro and COLA past and future.

"Happy" is a 51% solution. You ought to know that.

Gup
 
GuppyWN said:
"Everyone" is mighty broad. Most of the pilots for sure are happy. I'm overall happy but certainly feel two years with no contract is too long. I don't need a huge raise but I will vote no for any contract that does not have retro and COLA past and future.

"Happy" is a 51% solution. You ought to know that.

Gup
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I would guess 90% of our pilots agree with this assessment.
 
Tanker Clown said:
I just hope the pilots take what the company gives. I hear some nonsense about retro pay. That's BS.
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Hmmm...but it wasn't BS when the F/A's got retro...right? After all...they all got their retro checks just after the contract was ratified.

OK for F/A's...but not for pilots? Which side are you on? I guess we already know.
 
It was OK then because the economy wasn't in the tank. At this point, it may be best for all involved at SWA to take a less hard stance. Take a concessionary contract now, and when the economy turns around in few years, then get COLA and whatnot.
 
Tanker Clown,

You would cross a picket line, wouldn't you. If it was right for you, you wouldn't have a problem being a scab. Right?

The folks at SWA are making money and all they are asking for is COLA. Which is just breaking even. But if the SWA pilots chose to strike, you would gladly take what they have now and a little less.

That is how you read.
 
It doesn't matter...I hate it , but the clown is right...SWA pilots will vote for whatever is put before them. If only the FA's would negotiate for us...
 
You guys really shouldn't let TC spool you up. He's a troll. He has some insight into SWA, maybe he has a friend there (I know, TC with a friend, hard to imagine) maybe he is an FA that is a poser, who knows. who cares.

He has about 1 in 100 posts that is worth responding to. The worst part is that some new guy to the forum might take anything he has to say as something other than 100% hokum.
 
Sy-bill said:
Tanker Clown,

You would cross a picket line, wouldn't you. If it was right for you, you wouldn't have a problem being a scab. Right?

The folks at SWA are making money and all they are asking for is COLA. Which is just breaking even. But if the SWA pilots chose to strike, you would gladly take what they have now and a little less.

That is how you read.
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I think it would depend on what your motiviation is. What if I would like to be a check airman or maybe a chief pilot. Crossing a picket line would show the leadership that I'm a team player. I realize that we're playing a lot of "what ifs," but that might be a way to get your name in front of the non union leadership.
 
Tanker Clown said:
I think it would depend on what your motiviation is. What if I would like to be a check airman or maybe a chief pilot. Crossing a picket line would show the leadership that I'm a team player. I realize that we're playing a lot of "what ifs," but that might be a way to get your name in front of the non union leadership.
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nice flame.
 
Tanker Clown said:
I think it would depend on what your motiviation is. What if I would like to be a check airman or maybe a chief pilot. Crossing a picket line would show the leadership that I'm a team player. I realize that we're playing a lot of "what ifs," but that might be a way to get your name in front of the non union leadership.
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frank lorenzo would love this guy
 
I marvel at TC's performing art. You guys are the people on the sidewalk who just can't walk by without watching him...

What he does...he does very well.

If it bugs you...you need to put him on your blocked list. I don't block anyone, but I have my "internal filter" set at a pretty high threshold.
 
Tanker Clown said:
I think it would depend on what your motiviation is. What if I would like to be a check airman or maybe a chief pilot. Crossing a picket line would show the leadership that I'm a team player. I realize that we're playing a lot of "what ifs," but that might be a way to get your name in front of the non union leadership.
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It worked.

This guys opinions are worthless.
 
Actually, ALL of us were winners when our FA's got retro pay...considering what they spent it on.

(o)(o)
 

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