Alaska management verbally announces furloughs for

[Going2Baja]

From GS on the 14th....

Not sure if this has been posted - But here it is.

"Based on our reading of the very cloudy crystal ball, we expect to
downsize the airline by 850-1000 employees, of which 150-190 will be pilots.
In addition to the extended leave and early out programs which have already
been announced, we are working with ALPA to explore other fiscally sound ways
to futher mitigate involuntary furloughs. "

 

[Fubijaakr]

Fiscally sound? You mean like cutting the lines back to 75 hours? No wait...they already did that.

 

[Baze]

Fiscally sound? You mean like cutting the lines back to 75 hours? No wait...they already did that.

If you take a look at the CBA, bid blocks can be further taken down to 65 hours. But, they would still have to have a credit of 75. That is, if the company is serious about mitigating furloughs.

I'm sure the company is not going to go for 65 hour bid blocks with 75 hours credit. They are too cheap. MEC will file a grievance and the company will go ahead and furlough pilots anyways.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Of course they won't. Look, they cut the schedule. They're not keeping extra employees around. Why? The benefits package required for full time employees adds another 55% or so to the salary they pay them. That's why its cheaper for them to run understaffed and pay VSA rates to cover extra flying.

So, for the reason they won't build blocks to 65 and pay 75 is the same reason they'll furlough 190 guys. Once the training is done and the bases are staffed, wanna bet the lines go back to 85?

 

[Going2Baja]

Once the training is done and the bases are staffed, wanna bet the lines go back to 85?

No way - I won't take that bet! You are 100% correct!!

Baja.

 

[Mookie]

no offense, guys, but if ya'll aren't up for the fight against angle lake, then maybe moving to the private sector is a better move. seriously...ya'll need to stop reading everything that those guys are saying and chill the ******************** out. i use the analogy of the Iraqi information minister when I think about GS....Saying that they are "slaying the infadels" while bombs are going off in the background. the more he talks, the more I laugh. I have on good authority that they have no clue what the numbers are going to be, so it's all conjecture, and ya'll are reacting as if the furlough letters are in hand.

chill out everyone...this is a marathon...not a sprint...and u don't want to burn bridges.

Mookie

 

[Going2Baja]

Mookie - Agreed. All I'm saying is that Mngmt will try to do anything they can get away with. But as part of the bottom 190, I think we all need an exit plan.

Baja.

 

[Baze]

Mookie, you're such a zen master. It must be all the outdoor activity you're involved in.

I like the idea of GS being our Comical Ali.

But, I agree with G2B. We all definitely need to have some irons in the fire.

 

[Mookie]

totally...have irons in the fire, but you guys have been sounding like the chicks on "The View" lately....

mgmnt is doing their job...appease investors and scare the employees... like it or not, and I'm not justifying their behavior, but as much as a bunch of fools as I think those guys are...i'd rather have them then Tilton, Parker, the bozo at Continental...etc. sure Herb would be great, but we don't have him...

Much love....

Mookie

 

[ApM]

I am lucky...I found my iron(s), skis and a snowboard. See you in all in 17 months. I still love my job here and will when I come back but for now......let it snow,let it snow,let it snow
Hollywood is headn' to Sundance

 

[Baze]

Dude, that was just low... really low...

totally...have irons in the fire, but you guys have been sounding like the chicks on "The View" lately....

mgmnt is doing their job...appease investors and scare the employees... like it or not, and I'm not justifying their behavior, but as much as a bunch of fools as I think those guys are...i'd rather have them then Tilton, Parker, the bozo at Continental...etc. sure Herb would be great, but we don't have him...

Much love....

Mookie

Compared to the CEOs you referred to, I'd rather have you running AAG.

Hey, ApM, have fun on your leave. Don't be a stranger, okay? Pick up that phone every once in a while.

Hopefully, in 17 months this place will be worth coming back to. Otherwise, I might have to come down there and apply for one of those lift operator positions.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Looks like I missed the mark. Lines built to 80-85 for October. Good thing we're getting rid of excess pilots...NOT!

 

[Baze]

Lines are built to 80-85 hours as a courtesy to the VSA crowd.

Just makes it easier for the Kool-Aid drinkers to pick up some overtime.

Looks like I missed the mark. Lines built to 80-85 for October. Good thing we're getting rid of excess pilots...NOT!

 

[Going2Baja]

Looks like I missed the mark. Lines built to 80-85 for October. Good thing we're getting rid of excess pilots...NOT!

Line avg. for LAX is 77.79. Only 5 lines over 81hrs.

Baja.

 

[turbodriver]

I'll join you shortly after. I hope those SEA guys learn to like the Arctic in the winter.

damm skippy!!