Alaska management verbally announces furloughs for

[igneousy2]

Those VSA guys were whining about being harassed before...imagine when we got guys on the street. Can't believe we still have clowns doing this.

Later

 

[Bringupthebird]

Maybe if you hear it one more time it will sink in.

There is nothing greedy or self-absorbed about wanting the EXACT SAME career advancement opportunities that you have enjoyed. Nothing more, nothing less. Just the same. Equality is the opposite of greed.
Greed and self absorption lie in taking the EXACT SAME opportunities you've enjoyed from your children for your own personal gain.

Defending your own self-absorption by throwing a guilt trip on the guy that's going to lose his house so you can buy more Viagra is what is indefensible here.

I do wish you the best of luck in your apparent dream of dying at work, though.

I am facing a 40% pay cut in the next 3 months and I expect it to last for at least the next 5 -7 years best case scenario. The guys staying until the legal retirement age didn't cause that I don't expect them to share in my pain. Age 65 is right based on its own merits, regardless of how it affects me today.

I wish you better luck in interpreting dreams.

 

[dashtrash]

I am facing a 40% pay cut in the next 3 months and I expect it to last for at least the next 5 -7 years.

POOR YOU! Only 100k per year. 120 with VSA? Those on the street should start a collection to help you out. How are you going to feed your family?

 

[turbodriver]

I am facing a 40% pay cut in the next 3 months and I expect it to last for at least the next 5 -7 years best case scenario. The guys staying until the legal retirement age didn't cause that I don't expect them to share in my pain. Age 65 is right based on its own merits, regardless of how it affects me today.

I wish you better luck in interpreting dreams.

I'm facing a 100% pay cut.

cry me a river......

 

[Fubijaakr]

Just a couple thoughts.

1. ETOPS qualification is two days of ground school and a line check.
2. Any furlough will be accompanied by a reduction bid.
3. Any furlough will be preceded by an official furlough notice with a 30 day lead time.

Given these facts, there is plenty of time to post and award a reduction bid, train the awardees in ETOPS procedures, bid advance them up to ANC. Therefore, the Hawaii flying should not be effected.

So, that's a red herring. The MD guys choking the schoolhouse? True, but ETOPS only requires a classroom and a ground instructor. So that's another red herring.

Can they furlough 165 pilots? Sure. Will they? That remains to be seen. CAL threatened to furlough 500 and that's down to 180. Colgan threatened to furlough 80 pilots now they're hiring a class.

Threats of furlough and furloughs are two different things. The last time AS threatened to furlough, they extended it month by month for 3 months then cancelled the furlough. No one spent one day on the street. Remember, the contract also specifies furlough pay. You KNOW they don't want to pay that.

 

[Green Banana]

Remember, the contract also specifies furlough pay. You KNOW they don't want to pay that.

Furlough pay only works if you have 2 years with AS. This leaves only about 30 of the 165 protected. Even with that, furlough pay is 1 month pay! What are you going to do with that?

 

[Bringupthebird]

POOR YOU! Only 100k per year. 120 with VSA? Those on the street should start a collection to help you out. How are you going to feed your family?

I don't know what VSA stands for, but I'll be displaced this round, maybe furloughed the next. The point is that none of this was caused by people senior to me and I don't look for them to make sacrifices just to make it easier on me.

If you're looking for a handout instead of getting on with your life, you're wasting your time.

 

[BORAT]

Divide and conquer is a play out of Lorenzo's playbook and Ayer is learning (or has learned) how to behave like Dirty Frank...

 

[Mookie]

I don't know what VSA stands for, but I'll be displaced this round, maybe furloughed the next. The point is that none of this was caused by people senior to me and I don't look for them to make sacrifices just to make it easier on me.

If you're looking for a handout instead of getting on with your life, you're wasting your time.

I think though the senior guys understand the "tit for tat" aspect of the Jr guys voting in the future, and realize they don't want to screw us right now. well...at least the smarts ones that i've flown w/ have said this.

this is all a bull******************** ruse. I still think we're going to be hiring by June. this is going to be very very interesting.

Mookie

 

[becket]

I don't know what VSA stands for, but I'll be displaced this round, maybe furloughed the next. The point is that none of this was caused by people senior to me and I don't look for them to make sacrifices just to make it easier on me.

If you're looking for a handout instead of getting on with your life, you're wasting your time.

Pathetic sentiment.