Don't bother getting a B737 type rating - B737 Captains turned away

[JT12345]

Don't bother getting a B737 type rating - 1000 PIC B737 Captain turned away

SWA is turning away pilots with 1000+
PIC in the B737. At a job fair they told them they were not competitive.

There are a lot of 737 Captains on the street, and even 737 Captains at other companies looking to get out.

Don't waste your money. Atleast not now. As of now only one company in the world that I know of takes the B737 type rating without time in type - left seat, and they are not in the U.S.

 

[johnsonrod]

A 737 rating with loads of military time seems to be the trick nowadays from what I hear...

 

[JT12345]

I still can't believe they are telling pilots with 1000 in the left seat of the 737 they are not competitive. I am checking on it. I hope it was for Captains with less than 1000. lol

 

[Ualexpress]

Not True. I know a couple of buds who are in the left seat and current on the 737NG, one of whom has over 1000 hours in the left seat and one below 1000 hours, that have interviewed at SWA within the last month.

 

[Captzaahlie]

So there! :smash:

 

[FR8dognit]

SWA is turning away pilots with 1000+
PIC in the B737. At a job fair they told them they were not competitive.
...
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BS flag. FLAIM BAIT

 

[JT12345]

They were turning away guys with PIC experience in the B737 at the Pan'AM job fair this week. So the qualifications a week ago or a month ago don't seem to be holding up.

I didn't witness this myself. I wasn't there. Makes sense though. There are lots of B737 Captains looking for work employed or unemployed.

By the way the 1000+ PIC was Flamebait, lol. I don't know the B737 Captain that I heard that got turned away. I don't know his time in the left seat of the B737. I will try to find out.

 

[Captzaahlie]

They were turning away guys with PIC experience in the B737 at the Pan'AM job fair this week. So the qualifications a week ago or a month ago don't seem to be holding up.

I didn't witness this myself. I wasn't there. Makes sense though. There are lots of B737 Captains looking for work employed or unemployed.

I see your point but it doesn't sound like SWA's style.

There's thread around here someplace where 328dude spells out what your qualifications will do for you in the eyes of the SWA people Dept. I'll see if I can find it...... (his post's regarding SWA employment have always been spot on).

Don't let the rumors eat away at you.......

OK Tanker Clown your turn to take the stage and remind us again about your imminent furlough theory's at SWA again.....:laugh:

 

[1080P]

Maybe the rest of their resume is what they were referring to as not competitive.
Ya think

 

[Cornelius]

SWA said at the job fair, that they don't want to hire every 737 captain out there because they want a good mix from experienced 737 drivers all they down to RJ guys/gals. They compare RJ guys to RJ guys, National guys to national guys, and so on.

 

[Dude]

There are a lot of reasons that someone with that level of experience might not be marketable, and I 'll guess that their experience isn 't what they are referring to.

 

[Captzaahlie]

From a credible source....

In order of preference, it's something like this, PIC hours, Type, Total time, type of flying (135-121-91) and lastly time in 737 type.

For what it's worth, I listened to a SWA recruiter give a similar break down.

 

[bobs98tlr]

Its not true....a board member is in training right now and had no PIC time but had the type in the 737.

 

[avbug]

I didn't witness this myself. I wasn't there.

So you don't know, weren't there, and are spreading rumors. Got it.

By the way the 1000+ PIC was Flamebait, lol. I don't know the B737 Captain that I heard that got turned away. I don't know his time in the left seat of the B737. I will try to find out.

Okay, okay. We get it. You made it up, don't know what you're talking about, engaging in rumor mongoring, have no clue about the circumstances, and are bascially talking out your backside.

Thanks for playing, anyway. You've been a complete waste of time.

 

[GFunk20]

It's very easy to have time in type but not be competitive.....how about recency of experience? That's a huge one.

Qualifications only mean so much at SWA once you meet the mins anyway. It's a complete personality interview. Or else we'd have a sim eval, written, and ask tech questions in the interview. We do none of them.

The company is worried about maintaining their culture above anything else.

 

[007]

jt,
I was there and that's not what they said. They did say they compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. There was a few guys there who had 737 time and seemed more pissed about the fact that they weren't rolling out the red carpet for them....that's all.

They compare regionals to regionals, corporate to corporate....etc.

 

[redflyer65]

Expecting a red carpet is one way to make sure and not get an interview....

RF

 

[Colonel Savage]

Higher Power Aviation www.jetcrew.com in Dallas for your 737 Type Rating sems to be one of the keys to successfully obtaining an interview. The People Dept people from SWA stop by every Saturday for the weekly ice cream party and meet the HPA trainees.

"We're nuts too" is HPA's business motto.

 

[JT12345]

Found out the Captain was current in B737 and had almost 1000 PIC in B737. SWA said he wasn't competitive enough. Not that they wouldn't interview him. Only thing I can think of is he didn't have 1200 hours PIC, but I think they would have told him to come back in a couple of months when he got it.

I am getting really tired of this bull********************.

 

[Vingus]

"We're nuts too" is HPA's business motto.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little!

 

[relief tube]

I started a count of the number of times they mentioned the phrase "737 type" at that fair.

I stopped counting after 10.

What F-ING bs. Pick the best guys for the job and then if you're going to force them to pay for their own training when you're making millions, make them get it after they get the job.

Quit interviewing guys who were either lucky to have it from their old job or who took out a loan from daddy for it.

Pick the furloughed Midwest pilots, pick the guy who's been busting his arse at the regionals but has a mortgage and 2 kids and no 7 extra grand lying around to blow on just the chance at the most competitive job environment in a long time.

 

[navigatro]

Getting your 737 type demonstrates to SWA that they are your #1 choice. The company wants pilots who WANT to work at SWA due to their unique culture. They do not want pilots who are just looking for a good job.

I know that it is not possible for everyone to get the type rating, due to personal/financial reasons, but the company has historically given preference to those with the type, and whether you like it or not, it is a fact of life.

Now more than ever, in this extremely competitive environment, it is critical to have the type if you want a shot at an interview. No, I do not own stock in Higher Power. Getting the type is no guarantee of getting an interview, or getting a job.

 

[FR8dognit]

Getting your 737 type demonstrates to SWA that they are your #1 choice. The company wants pilots who WANT to work at SWA due to their unique culture. They do not want pilots who are just looking for a good job.

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Well stated Nav.

It is a gamble...it is what it is. Don't hate the player (WN)...hate the game (this industry).

 

[GuppyWN]

Maybe they turned him away cause he's a butthole.

Gup

 

[freightdogfred]

I started a count of the number of times they mentioned the phrase "737 type" at that fair.

I stopped counting after 10.

What F-ING bs. Pick the best guys for the job and then if you're going to force them to pay for their own training when you're making millions, make them get it after they get the job.

Quit interviewing guys who were either lucky to have it from their old job or who took out a loan from daddy for it.

Pick the furloughed Midwest pilots, pick the guy who's been busting his arse at the regionals but has a mortgage and 2 kids and no 7 extra grand lying around to blow on just the chance at the most competitive job environment in a long time.

Or pick a guy who does not complain about his situation, who feels fortunate to have what he has. Ever hear the story about the guy who complained about not having shoes, till he saw the guy with no legs?

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Higher Power Aviation www.jetcrew.com in Dallas for your 737 Type Rating sems to be one of the keys to successfully obtaining an interview. The People Dept people from SWA stop by every Saturday for the weekly ice cream party and meet the HPA trainees.

"We're nuts too" is HPA's business motto.

SWA could care less where you get your type rating...all they care about is that you have one before you start your New Hire class.

I know alot of guys who got types at places other than HPA...and are flying here today.

 

[Mr Hat]

Isn't Southwest going to stop hiring soon anyway? If/When they do the competetivness of it all will change.
I don't think I've ever heard Southwest tell anyone that they were not competetive unless they didn't have the minimums. Otherwise, they are all fair game.
At a Southwest interview you'll have your guys with boatloads of time and those with the minimums both military and civi.

 

[Rekks Inbound]

Have the type, plenty of PIC (well in excess of required), current CRJ CA, really want to be at SWA, But am unable to make the open houses due to work sked..I also keep my app up to date weekly.

Anyone at SWA maybe have the number of the PD? if so, could you maybe PM it to me? Thanks in advance if so, if you can't for various reasons, I understand.

Thanks again.

Peace.

Rekks

 

[waveflyer]

i would imagine if you're furloughed or unemployed- expect the question 'have you've applied at southwest before you got laid off- and if not, why not?' You will not get the job if it comes across that the only reason you've applied is b/c you need a job and they're hiring. Every place wants more than that, so think about it and be prepared to answer. It's not a deal-killer, it's in how you answer.

the 73 type req debate has been over-killed. it is what it is. If you want to work at southwest, find out why they require it and get on board w/ the philosophy. B/c if you don't and just resent the training bill, then you are truly throwing your money away.

 

[Benhuntn]

If they eliminated pilots because they are buttholes they would have eliminated Kernal haters so it must be something else