Don't bother getting a B737 type rating - B737 Captains turned away

[relief tube]

I started a count of the number of times they mentioned the phrase "737 type" at that fair.

I stopped counting after 10.

What F-ING bs. Pick the best guys for the job and then if you're going to force them to pay for their own training when you're making millions, make them get it after they get the job.

Quit interviewing guys who were either lucky to have it from their old job or who took out a loan from daddy for it.

Pick the furloughed Midwest pilots, pick the guy who's been busting his arse at the regionals but has a mortgage and 2 kids and no 7 extra grand lying around to blow on just the chance at the most competitive job environment in a long time.

 

[navigatro]

Getting your 737 type demonstrates to SWA that they are your #1 choice. The company wants pilots who WANT to work at SWA due to their unique culture. They do not want pilots who are just looking for a good job.

I know that it is not possible for everyone to get the type rating, due to personal/financial reasons, but the company has historically given preference to those with the type, and whether you like it or not, it is a fact of life.

Now more than ever, in this extremely competitive environment, it is critical to have the type if you want a shot at an interview. No, I do not own stock in Higher Power. Getting the type is no guarantee of getting an interview, or getting a job.

 

[FR8dognit]

Getting your 737 type demonstrates to SWA that they are your #1 choice. The company wants pilots who WANT to work at SWA due to their unique culture. They do not want pilots who are just looking for a good job.

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Well stated Nav.

It is a gamble...it is what it is. Don't hate the player (WN)...hate the game (this industry).

 

[GuppyWN]

Maybe they turned him away cause he's a butthole.

Gup

 

[freightdogfred]

I started a count of the number of times they mentioned the phrase "737 type" at that fair.

I stopped counting after 10.

What F-ING bs. Pick the best guys for the job and then if you're going to force them to pay for their own training when you're making millions, make them get it after they get the job.

Quit interviewing guys who were either lucky to have it from their old job or who took out a loan from daddy for it.

Pick the furloughed Midwest pilots, pick the guy who's been busting his arse at the regionals but has a mortgage and 2 kids and no 7 extra grand lying around to blow on just the chance at the most competitive job environment in a long time.

Or pick a guy who does not complain about his situation, who feels fortunate to have what he has. Ever hear the story about the guy who complained about not having shoes, till he saw the guy with no legs?

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Higher Power Aviation www.jetcrew.com in Dallas for your 737 Type Rating sems to be one of the keys to successfully obtaining an interview. The People Dept people from SWA stop by every Saturday for the weekly ice cream party and meet the HPA trainees.

"We're nuts too" is HPA's business motto.

SWA could care less where you get your type rating...all they care about is that you have one before you start your New Hire class.

I know alot of guys who got types at places other than HPA...and are flying here today.

 

[Mr Hat]

Isn't Southwest going to stop hiring soon anyway? If/When they do the competetivness of it all will change.
I don't think I've ever heard Southwest tell anyone that they were not competetive unless they didn't have the minimums. Otherwise, they are all fair game.
At a Southwest interview you'll have your guys with boatloads of time and those with the minimums both military and civi.

 

[Rekks Inbound]

Have the type, plenty of PIC (well in excess of required), current CRJ CA, really want to be at SWA, But am unable to make the open houses due to work sked..I also keep my app up to date weekly.

Anyone at SWA maybe have the number of the PD? if so, could you maybe PM it to me? Thanks in advance if so, if you can't for various reasons, I understand.

Thanks again.

Peace.

Rekks

 

[waveflyer]

i would imagine if you're furloughed or unemployed- expect the question 'have you've applied at southwest before you got laid off- and if not, why not?' You will not get the job if it comes across that the only reason you've applied is b/c you need a job and they're hiring. Every place wants more than that, so think about it and be prepared to answer. It's not a deal-killer, it's in how you answer.

the 73 type req debate has been over-killed. it is what it is. If you want to work at southwest, find out why they require it and get on board w/ the philosophy. B/c if you don't and just resent the training bill, then you are truly throwing your money away.

 

[Benhuntn]

If they eliminated pilots because they are buttholes they would have eliminated Kernal haters so it must be something else

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Getting your 737 type demonstrates to SWA that they are your #1 choice. The company wants pilots who WANT to work at SWA due to their unique culture. They do not want pilots who are just looking for a good job.

That is the biggest horse s#$t that has ever being posted on FI. They require the type for one reason only, It saves them money by assuring a very high pass rate during their training because their candidates have double the sim time than anybody else. I know all about the "LUV" laced koolaid and all but lets keep it real people. Give me a freaking break

 

[navigatro]

That is the biggest horse s#$t that has ever being posted on FI. They require the type for one reason only, It saves them money by assuring a very high pass rate during their training because their candidates have double the sim time than anybody else. I know all about the "LUV" laced koolaid and all but lets keep it real people. Give me a freaking break

I agree that REQUIRING the type saves the company money.

However, if you want to be called for the interview (especially if you are non-military), the best way is to get the type. I was told this by a SWA ACP. It has been historically accurate (ever since they removed the type requirement for the interview.)

I am not a Kool-Aid drinker, and I am not a SWA hater. I am someone that can look at the facts and see the truth for what it is. Like I said before, whether you like it or not, it is what it is.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Maybe they turned him away cause he's a butthole.

Gup

If that's the case, how did most of the swa posters on here get hired?

 

[spitfire1500]

Maybe they turned him away cause he's a butthole.

Gup

That works more than one way...I know of a major butthole that made life for about 1200 pilots hell for a few years and SWA hired him. I am pretty sure Ben Stillers character in Dodge Ball was based on this guy. Identical match!

 

[Bringupthebird]

Did the 737 CA show up with a yellow lanyard and build his time flying a 737 with a bastardization of the US flag on the tail?

There are some ingredients they would just as soon leave out of the recipe!

 

[Flopgut]

I flew with 3 guys getting furloughed by us [CAL] that were interviewing with SWA.

 

[Flopgut]

There are some ingredients they would just as soon leave out of the recipe!

Your own experience notwithstanding, they've hired CAL pilots before and they'll hire more. As long as D.L. and other CAL types (probably you!) don't try to screw things up for them.

BTW: I'll be the first to admit they wouldn't hire me.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

If they eliminated pilots because they are buttholes they would have eliminated Kernal haters so it must be something else

Not really...I truly enjoy flying with "Colonels"...can't stand flying with "kernals"

See the difference?

 

[JT12345]

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[ASADFW7]

I for one would use flightinfo only as a guide not your sole source for information. If you want to work at SWA do not stop trying and whether you get you type rating now or later if that is where you truly want to be go for it. My type rating sat unused six years between interviews. I know it is a lot of money with no guarantees, but your attitude and persiverance will show through in your application process. Good luck.