Delta Hiring?

[Linedriver]

What's the rumor now?

One rumor is that Delta will be hiring the few pilots NWA will furlough during the merger and the other is that they will be hiring this fall.

What's the skinny?

 

[~~~^~~~]

NWA cnx it's displacements. I don't expect that they will furlough.

There is supposed to be a AE (position notice) coming out on the Delta side very soon. That will provide more information.

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

Regarding the AE, if there are displacements that would be not good obviously.

IMHO, we are short on the bigger airplanes and fat in the junior 88s in ATL and NYC. So, we have to movethem up.

 

[michael707767]

IMHO, we are short on the bigger airplanes and fat in the junior 88s in ATL and NYC. So, we have to movethem up.

Actually, crew resources is saying the 738 and M88 FO positions are, or will be, short. The question right now is do they displace pilots back to staff those categories, or do they hire to fill them.

 

[Superpilot92]

What's the rumor now?

One rumor is that Delta will be hiring the few pilots NWA will furlough during the merger and the other is that they will be hiring this fall.

What's the skinny?

As far as NWA goes, all displacements were cancelled. Since then we have had nothing but Awards on the APA's and lots of retirements. Some will argue we will need more pilots before the SOC happpens. We'll see

 

[lookin4better]

I would guess the answer lies in the price of oil....if it goes up, due to Gustav or other variables, they will not hire to fill those positions.

Later this year ( winter ) and early 2009 is my guess-----but dependant on many variables ( including the merger--which alone is extremely unpredictable ) , some controllable some not. Who knows?? I am someone on the outside tying to get in----only my guess. ;-)

 

[Superpilot92]

I would guess the answer lies in the price of oil....if it goes up, due to Gustav or other variables, they will not hire to fill those positions.

Later this year ( winter ) and early 2009 is my guess-----but dependant on many variables ( including the merger--which alone is extremely unpredictable ) , some controllable some not. Who knows?? I am someone on the outside tying to get in----only my guess. ;-)

I agree

 

[Tanker Clown]

When does the hiring fire back up at Song?

 

[MDPilot]

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[MDPilot]

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Ah, what bliss!

 

[Diesel-9]

NWA had 50 retirements in August. Many if not most were in addition to the 50 PERP's.

 

[Linedriver]

Actually, crew resources is saying the 738 and M88 FO positions are, or will be, short. The question right now is do they displace pilots back to staff those categories, or do they hire to fill them.

I can vouch for that. I have only been at Delta since January and have a line for September in Atlanta (md88). Just flew my ALV in August and my line for Sept totals 87 hours.

The 88 staffing might be a little short. I also think there will be even more retirements after the merger once the equity is paid out.

With that and the additional retirements from the NWA side I think we will be short, in all categories. I don't think there will be a displacement, or I hope there won't be a displacement.

Any further insight from anyone?

 

[FBN0223]

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Ditto!!!

 

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[General Lee]

Actually, crew resources is saying the 738 and M88 FO positions are, or will be, short. The question right now is do they displace pilots back to staff those categories, or do they hire to fill them.

I have been hearing that we MAY displace the CVG 757/767 pilots out of CVG. (they were also thinking about making a CVG ER base, but I can't really see that) I don't know where those planes will go, but those pilots may have to bid CVG 73N or MD88 if they want to stay, or follow the planes to where ever they go. I think they will make the final decision in 4-6 weeks..... We shall see....

Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[GogglesPisano]

"Tanker Clown. This loser is on your Ignore List."

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[Whataboutbob]

There was some grumblings at Mesaba that Northwest might start hiring soon because of models showing them short pilots. Which would mean the flow up continuing. Not sure if those are pre/post merger models. Just wondering if anyone has more credible knowledge to share on the topic. I know the topic on this thread is "delta hiring" but I figured soon enough it will all be one company.

 

[Razorback Flyer]

Definitely not fat on 88 fo’s in ATL. I’m a junior reserve in that category, and flew right up to ALV in August without trying. Had an assignment pretty much every reserve day I had. September looks not as busy, but I’m still hitting the ground running this month.

 

[wings421]

Razorback,

I'm with you. I'd love to get some of my junior NYC classmates back to ATL on the 88! We're certainly working our share.

 

[whatitdoing?]

ALV?? For us non Deltoids?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Average Line Value.
Every month scheduling comes out with a average block value for the lines that PBS will create. If a line of time (LOT) cannot be constructed plus or minus five hrs of this number the line will not be created.
For reserves it is the max amount of credit that they can fly you to for the month. 767 this month is 72.00 hrs.

 

[qxdash8]

Average Line Value.
Every month scheduling comes out with a average block value for the lines that PBS will create. If a line of time (LOT) cannot be constructed plus or minus five hrs of this number the line will not be created.
For reserves it is the max amount of credit that they can fly you to for the month. 767 this month is 72.00 hrs.

Of course, with your permission, they can fly you over ALV on reserve (yellow slip). ALV in the ER was 82 last month. I flew 85 with no green slips. Ended up with a couple of extra days off at the end of the month.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

True, with your permission they will do whatever you want.

 

[Razorback Flyer]

ALV for the ATL 88 FO’s in Aug was 81:15. My credit was 81:10. And that was just sitting back and waiting to be called. Actually, no one ever called me - I just checked my schedule the day before I was on call and always had a trip. My understanding is that with a yellow slip scheduling can fly you to a credit of ALV + 15 (i.e. 96:15 for Aug ATL 88 FO,) but I was pretty wore out by the end of the month, and 81:10 sounded OK to me.
It is starting to look like September is going to be busy too, as reserve levels are hovering in the lower teens or less for most of the month. Not as much open time as last month (thus my prediction of it being a little slower,) but I’m still continuing my trend of no idle reserve days so far.
I'll second the vote for bringing down some junior NYC/QNY guys (or getting some newhires) - but I don't think that's how its going to shake out.

 

[Monster Buck]

Us cinci guys are covering many of those Atlanta trips also. 95 percent of my trips start and end with a dh to Atlanta on the 88. So count us cinci guys in the mix of the Atlanta flying. They also call us any time there is a trip open that has a MD90 on it. I would love to do reserve in cinci and actually get cinci trips. But for now I am just lucky to still be in cinci before the possible flush.

 

[MXAV8R]

Well for us LAX73NB, it looks like Oct. will be the busiest month this year. Going from 30 lines in Sept. to 40 in Oct. with 52 pilots total in category. Perhaps my life of leisure on reserve will be over

 

[on autopilot]

When does the hiring fire back up at Song?

Abot the same time TWA, Pan AM and Braniff starts. Keep your eyes peeled, any day now I'm sure!!

 

[Truckdriver]

Us cinci guys are covering many of those Atlanta trips also. 95 percent of my trips start and end with a dh to Atlanta on the 88. So count us cinci guys in the mix of the Atlanta flying. They also call us any time there is a trip open that has a MD90 on it. I would love to do reserve in cinci and actually get cinci trips. But for now I am just lucky to still be in cinci before the possible flush.

SLC guys are also covering lots of ATL 88 flying for October. There are only a handful of west coast pairings and the rest all go through CVG or ORD then into ATL. I don't mind covering ATL flying as long as I don't get pushed back to reserve in SLC. Looks good for another month.

 

[Gunfighter]

Average Line Value.
Every month scheduling comes out with a average block value for the lines that PBS will create. If a line of time (LOT) cannot be constructed plus or minus five hrs of this number the line will not be created.
For reserves it is the max amount of credit that they can fly you to for the month. 767 this month is 72.00 hrs.

The line window is actually a little larger. It is plus or minus 7.5 hours. The 72 ALV translates to a window of 65(contractual min) to 79:30.

 

[Linedriver]

Three things.

1. What is PERPS?

B. Anyone know the retirement projections for the rest of year at NWA?

Last, Any insight on the upcoming AE in October at Delta? What's it gonna be?