USAPA wants $'s for marksman........

[Networ-King]

But you're not bitter or anything because this guy spent his career at one place. Pathetic.


You're Done.

Bitter? Me? Yeah right.... live and learn and grow from it buddy. Even with all my airlines, not being senior like this dou che, I managed to save money and get my finances in order so I wouldn't have to cry for help when sh!t hit the fan. You're the pathetic individual that is defending someone that created his own termination by making up his own procedures and endangering his crew and passengers.... oh and shooting an innocent fifi in the left side and lets not forget jeopardizing the FFDO program .

This guy was a captain most of his life making great money for a long time and yet he can't support his "habits" for more than 6 months while unemployed? No wonder he's in the situation he's in right now, irresponsible and negligent with a gun .... irresponsible and negligent with his finances. Cry me a fu(king river and grow up man.....when are people gonna start taking responsibility for their negligence and their actions?

 

[MK82Man]

1/2 hearted and way too late!

[FONT=Arial,sans-serif]A LETTER, THE FIRST THING I AGREE WITH, THAT USAPA HAS DONE................[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,sans-serif][FONT=Arial,sans-serif]IT WILL PROBABLY FALL ON DEAF EARS IN TEMPE! [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Arial,sans-serif][FONT=Arial,sans-serif]GOOD LUCK EVERYONE![/FONT][/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,sans-serif][FONT=Arial,sans-serif]Fellow Pilots,[/FONT] The following letter was sent yesterday to CEO Doug Parker from USAPA President Steve Bradford:

US Airline Pilots Association​

5821 Fairview Rd., Suite 400

Charlotte, NC 28209​

[FONT=Arial,sans-serif]877-678-7272[/FONT]

August 19, 2008​

Dear Mr. Parker, During the pre-pilot bid conference calls and meetings, USAPA was informed that the furloughs resulting from the upcoming East and West bids were due solely to industry hardships created by the cost of fuel. This was reiterated by you at the recent CLT Crew News Event this month, where you stated that furloughs were not associated with contract talks, but rather due to fuel costs. On June 12, relevant USAPA Committees had their first conference call with Management regarding the upcoming pilot bid driven by the announced furloughs. At that time the price of crude oil was $136.74/bbl and rising. On July 4, 2008, the price of crude oil hit $145.74/bbl and was still rising. Times are changing, and it now appears that the bubble has burst with oil prices predictably falling as oil speculators retreat with their profits. In addition, the US Dollar is now gaining strength in the international markets. As I write this the price of oil has dropped to under $113/bbl. It is also worth noting that US Airways has progressive competitors looking to gain market share as we furlough and retreat. So there we have it, oil off nearly 30%=2 0from its high and slipping, and a stronger US Dollar. On behalf of our pilots who are facing extreme financial hardship due to the pending furloughs, we must ask the question, “Since the furloughs are the result of rising fuel costs and the fuel costs are now retreating, has the Company considered canceling the furloughs and instead position itself to compete aggressively in the marketplace?” In addition to the human impact, there are other factors that support an end to the furloughs. The East has already started extensive and costly training for the October bid. There were 426 displacements just on East bid 08-04, which generated a total of 384 training events. The West Displacement Bid will also generate significant training events, leading cumulatively to enormous Pilot training costs for the Company. In addition, there is the question of timing, concerning when, if ever, the Company will realize cost savings from the furloughs given the consequent training events. We cannot predict where oil will go from here, however the current retreat in oil prices offers you a wonderful opportunity for bold leadership. Stop the furloughs, save the training costs, and compete aggressively in the market place. Your positive actions would also give a much needed boost to your professional employees who make US Airways Fly, and could help restore some sorely lac king confidence in Management. Finally, there is nothing that will preclude you from reinstating a future cutback should oil prices increase.​

Sincerely, Stephen Bradford​

President, US Airline Pilots Association

Captzaahlie -- Interesting that you got a copy -- thanks for posting. Out West, we never hear from our CBA (self-appointed, non-elected) Leadership. USAPA hasn't said word one to us West dudes about to be furloughed. Zero about how they worked with management for early retirements. Zero about how they are working for COBRA coverage for pilots and family members. Zero about how they asked the company to lower the minimum so that we could keep folks on-board. And Zero about how they were working to correct the furloughs out of Seniority. Not even a FACT SHEET about your benefits and rights upon furlough, and we have dudes going out the door in 10 days. Why ... because USAPA doesn't care about the West and I doubt they even brought those subjects up with management. USAPA doesn't even know the total training costs or number of training events for the West to use in the letter to Parker. Management cares about one thing, money. IF USAPA had quantified, it is going to cost you $3.5M to retrain pilots and $8M is furlough pay for the 300 furloughs that would be one thing ... but to talk about positioning the new US Airways for aggressive expansion? What drugs are they taking? We are losing money. With a projected loss this year of $1.5B, it comes to $100+M a month. The company doesn't care about $10M in furlough costs -- it is getting smaller. The economy is going downhill and it is going to take a Major (or a couple of minors) to go away for every airline (minus SWA) to get better. Until then it is just a "save cash, burn as little as possible" game. Even at $120 a barrel. The company has already announced it will be 7-10 % smaller next year and in 2010 again. Two words -- MORE FURLOUGHS. If USAPA thinks we can expand in the current environment they are smoking weed. They'd be much better off working to bring the pilots groups together so that we could fight management together than recommending an aggressive expansion plan to management. Here is the secret management plan, use the pilot turmoil USAPA has created to lower labor costs and work rules as far as possible (bottom of the industry) to keep the carrier afloat as long as possible so management can collect their salary. Thanks for nothing USAPA!​

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[Bringupthebird]

From the Exhaulted Grand Imperial Poohbah:


"Your positive actions would also give a much needed boost to your professional employees who make US Airways Fly, and could help restore some sorely lac king confidence in Management."

I can imagine Parker saying, "This guy's lecturing ME on a lack of confidence?"

 

[PHXFLYR]

A federal judge dismissed the case with predjudice, why is that? You guys had more than a little trouble presenting your "case" and "evidence" that day in front of the judge.

usapa is just plain repugnant, period.

Not according to the weboard update announcing their intention to refile in Federal Court in Richmond There they claim that the judge dismissed the case without prejudice and that is why they chose to refile. These idiots are flatout lieing to their own membership, And the sad part is that not one of their "good union pilots" picked up on that little fact yet. "Men of genius", indeed


PHXFLYR

 

[Regul8r]

Did the guy completely disregard established procedures for the handling (in an airplane under his command) of an object designed for the purpose of killing other people? Simple yes or no please.

Yes he did.

Should the guy expect to be fired? Yes. Should he be allowed the means to try and get it back? Why not?

99.9% of the "cut and dry" guys on here would be pissing and moaning for their job back if they were in his shoes. But then again, I'm not surprised. This IS flight mis-info where half the people aren't pilots and the other half are drunk while posting.

 

[Regul8r]

I managed to save money and get my finances in order so I wouldn't have to cry for help when sh!t hit the fan.

You have much to learn, my friend. Much to learn.

 

[Hamburger]

I wonder if this particular gunslinger regrets the PickleBallers coup. If it were still ALPA, he would have simply been appointed council. No need to start a fundraiser.

Of course, I'm one of those guys that thinks dues should be spent defending your members instead of suing them.

Any USAir guys lost their medical this year? Pickleball Aeromedical taking care of you? How's the contract coming? Got the definition of Binding changed yet?

 

[Occam's Razor]

Should the guy expect to be fired? Yes. Should he be allowed the means to try and get it back? Why not?

Are there any pilot actions that warrant termination?

(That's rhetorical...)

This was a crime. A lucid human chose to violate rules that he understood and swore to follow. "Why?" is of no importance. His crime endangered others and "hazarded a vessel".

We don't need to know how good a guy he is, or whether or not he's remorseful. It is possible for a pilot to commit an act that justifies termination. In my opinion, this is one of them. I could be wrong...but I'm not.

Separate issue: Does he have the right to grieve or appeal the decision of his management?

Absolutely!

Move along...nothing to see here.

 

[Networ-King]

You have much to learn, my friend. Much to learn.

You are right..... I have to learn not to deal with morons like you and I just have to make peace with the fact that there are idiots out there that need the help of unions to save their jobs because they are stupid and negligent.

You can't defend this idiot logically, so you come back with stupid one liners to try and make yourself sound smart. Move a long junior nothing more for you to see here. You truly are and idiot........

Net

Oh and make sure you mail that check immediately, so your precious criminal doesn't lose his Harley . Since he can't make the payments after 6 months of unemployment.....

 

[vetrider]

And don't forget, binding arbitration isn't binding when you have the "tyranny of the majority".

Who also happen to be quite a collection of unethical ****************************** bags. I know you are to polite and professional to say that, but I'm not.