NWA/DAL/Hat?

[Fly4hire]

Who gives a hoot about the hat? If they say wear it I'll wear it. I go to work to earn a paycheck and support my family/lifestyle - not make social commentary. Personally I do think the nonsense about hat = professionalism is just that. I'll wear a tux to work if they pay me what they did 5 years ago.

DAL has a lot of good things in their contract, as does NWA. We each have some turds as well. Ditto training, schedule bidding, pay, safety, etc.

I hope we can take the best from both and dump the rest.

My understanding is that the various counterparts from DAL/NWA are meeting actively to accomplish just that.

Crossing my fingers that cool heads prevail over DMC's and we really will have that world beating airline.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Amen. I would like to see some of the stuff you guys have. I am hopeful that it will be a good deal.

 

[slinky]

Who gives a hoot about the hat? If they say wear it I'll wear it. I go to work to earn a paycheck and support my family/lifestyle - not make social commentary. Personally I do think the nonsense about hat = professionalism is just that. I'll wear a tux to work if they pay me what they did 5 years ago.

DAL has a lot of good things in their contract, as does NWA. We each have some turds as well. Ditto training, schedule bidding, pay, safety, etc.

I hope we can take the best from both and dump the rest.

My understanding is that the various counterparts from DAL/NWA are meeting actively to accomplish just that.

Crossing my fingers that cool heads prevail over DMC's and we really will have that world beating airline.

Nicely said. I really dont care about the hat one way or the other. I guess I would rather not have it but like others have said, this is a job. I go to work wear what they tell me to wear, fly the plane and go home. That is about that.

 

[Superpilot92]

Just make it optional and its a win win for everyone.

 

[NuGuy]

Amen. I would like to see some of the stuff you guys have. I am hopeful that it will be a good deal.

Heyas ACL,

A LOT of the good stuff in the NWA contract is the kind of thing you use once every 5 years, but when it comes up, you are DAMN glad it's in there.

Other sections, just as training, and dealing with ASAP and FOQA, keep a tight lid on stupid management tricks and "contract creep".

Nu

 

[ACL65PILOT]

We are working on getting ASAP back on line. It is a great program, but there was some issues in the fine detail that we needed worked out. It appears to be almost done. It will be a good thing to have that back on line again.

Nu, per our rant a few days ago. Are you hearing anything concerning a trimming of your schedules up at NWA. Rumblings here and there, but I have nothing concrete yet.

 

[NuGuy]

Heyas ACL,

No, I personally haven't heard anything.

Any big news will probably be out about cuts for either (or both) sides when DAL management briefs both the DAL and NWA MECs next week on the "new" business plan.

With just about everyone cutting pilots (UAL, CAL etc), our MEC thought it was a good idea to go into "mitigation" mode. Our monthly maxes are still on the high side, so there is room to dial back there, plus we have a "no availability" bid that pays you 55 hours for sitting at home.

Unless you're at SWA, thinking there won't be cuts where you're at might be overly optimistic.

Nu

 

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Corporate businessjet passengers do not think that hats go with the "profession."

That's because you can't wear your hat while standing in one of those.

 

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[Superpilot92]

We are working on getting ASAP back on line. It is a great program, but there was some issues in the fine detail that we needed worked out. It appears to be almost done. It will be a good thing to have that back on line again.

Nu, per our rant a few days ago. Are you hearing anything concerning a trimming of your schedules up at NWA. Rumblings here and there, but I have nothing concrete yet.

I think the trimming of schedules is going to come at the regional level pretty soon for the nwa side. There really hasnt been any reductions yet from our feeders but all other majors have scaled back their regional feed. One good thing is the Schedulers told me last night we were big time short on dc9 fos now, so thats better than being overstaffed as far as your concerns go. The good thing is both sides still have room to wiggle because we both stopped hiring. we shall see

 

[Jmoney]

I'm proud to wear my hat.

It is always hard to choke down ANYTHING this idiot comes up with! He is truly a world-class moron!

 

[eatme]

Amen. I would like to see some of the stuff you guys have. I am hopeful that it will be a good deal.

Like all their good looking F/A's!!!

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Oh yeah those. They make ours look young....