Maybe a reson to vote Dem.

[FishandFly]

PCL, He didn't even watch the video. Ignorance at it's finest.

 

[PCL_128]

Abortion doctor agreed to have a ladies abortion documented via ultrasound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjNo_0cW-ek&feature=related

It will take you 27 minutes to watch, but if you think aborting a "fetus" is acceptable, you need to take the time to consider the alternative.

This video should be required viewing for all high school students as part of any "sex ed" curriculum. That's the video that changed my mind about abortion. A horribly violent and despicable procedure.

 

[Abernathy]

Abernathy,
You posted minutes after me, so you did not even watch the video.

Please explain why it is not acceptable in the third trimester?

I said I don't think it's acceptable. I never said it should be outlawed.

I don't think an embryo is a person. And if you think a fertilized egg is a person, you need a reality check.

A fetuses brain, CNS, and control centers in the brain are not fully developed in the first trimester. Even after birth, connections are still being made in brain. Though no one knows exactly what it's like to be a 2nd trimester baby, I'm convinced that they're not conscious of the environment around them. A third trimester baby is pretty close to the viable stage. I know, because I know someone who was born 2 months premature and is 100% fine.

I think it's unacceptable because by the third trimester, you should be able to know whether or not you want the baby. By the third trimester, you should know whether or not the fetus is the product of a rape, incest, mistake, etc. And by around that time, the fetus is a viable baby.

There's my reason.

 

[Abernathy]

PCL, He didn't even watch the video. Ignorance at it's finest.

I didn't need to watch it again.

 

[FishandFly]

Incredible that the abortion doctor refused to ever perform another abortion (after 10,000) and yet people are able to watch the same thing and blow it off as insignificant.

This mentality must be very similar to the acceptance jihadists have taken of cutting off a person's head. You must have to numb the mind and heart a great deal to reach that point.

 

[Abernathy]

Incredible that the abortion doctor refused to ever perform another abortion (after 10,000) and yet people are able to watch the same thing and blow it off as insignificant.

This mentality must be very similar to the acceptance jihadists have taken of cutting off a person's head. You must have to numb the mind and heart a great deal to reach that point.

Yes anyone who agrees with abortion (a significant plurality of the population) thinks like a jihadist.

Again, leave the emotions at home.

It could be worse. I could have said I agree with "partial birth" abortion, or whatever they call it now. But I don't. I think it's pretty horrific.

Either way, that was a video of a partial birth abortion. I should have been more clear in my initial post. I meant I find abortion acceptable as in 1st and 2nd trimester.

 

[FishandFly]

I didn't need to watch it again.

Why did you say that it is unacceptable in the third trimester?

At what discernible point are you drawing the line?

 

[acaTerry]

by the third trimester, you should be able to know whether or not you want the baby.

That's a decision that should be made before conception.

 

[Abernathy]

That's a decision that should be made before conception.

Ever been raped? Ever broke a condom? Mistakes happen.

This is a mistake that can easily be taken care of EARLY. Wait 7 months and you've had your chance.

I'm against partial birth abortion, and it didn't sting for me when Bush signed that legislation into law.

 

[FishandFly]

Yes anyone who agrees with abortion (a significant plurality of the population) thinks like a jihadist.

Again, leave the emotions at home.

It could be worse. I could have said I agree with "partial birth" abortion, or whatever they call it now. But I don't. I think it's pretty horrific.

Either way, that was a video of a partial birth abortion. I should have clarified. I meant I find abortion acceptable as in 1st and 2nd trimester.

Hell abernathy. You haven't even seen the video. It is an abortion at 12 weeks, not partial birth.

 

[Abernathy]

Hell abernathy. You haven't even seen the video. It is an abortion at 12 weeks, not partial birth.

Should have paid closer attention. I thought it was partial birth. I've never been good with ultrasounds.

I did watch the video. I just happened to have seen it a lot longer ago.

 

[FishandFly]

Abernathy, since it's not worth 27 minutes of your life to see this, TAKE 10 minutes

Here is the portion of the video showing the procedure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJzSiAPXTiQ&feature=related

 

[PCL_128]

Either way, that was a video of a partial birth abortion.

Actually, NO, it wasn't. Partial birth abortion is an even more brutal and despicable procedure that involved partially birthing the child and inserting scissors in its skull to the kill the baby before it's head has cleared the birth canal. What you saw was a regular old, run of the mill abortion. It was conducted just 11 weeks after conception.

 

[FishandFly]

Abernathy,
After about 10 minutes, please respond back to the following:

1. How is it that the abortion doctor refused to every perform an abortion again after watching this, but you and many others are unaffected?

2. Considering your concept of it being acceptable at this stage (12 weeks) what discernible point is reached in the third trimester which you suddenly consider this unacceptable?

 

[Abernathy]

Abernathy, since it's not worth 27 minutes of your life to see this, TAKE 10 minutes

Here is the portion of the video showing the procedure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJzSiAPXTiQ&feature=related

For the umpteenth time, I've seen the video. I just saw before you posted it.

And PCL_128, I know now it was 12 months. I thought this thread was about partial birth abortion, another video I've seen. Like I said, I've seen this video just a long time ago. I've seen a lot of stuff on abortion, videos, read the literature, covered it in classes, etc.

I should have watched it again when I saw this thread so I knew exactly what this one was about. My mistake.

Carry on.