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Job security bro, job security.
 
For the traveling public and chiropractors. .
 
What's your problem, Rez? People like to vent a little bit. While our job is great and this is partly due to the travel infrastructure in the good ol' US, airlining still sucks. All the good parts of our job doesn't change that. And the steps that airlines are taking now just increases the misery.

So get off your soapbox about how good we have it. We know we have it good. Move on and let us cry on each other's shoulders.

I guess I am whining about cry babies crying about an inconvienence to a great job that frac guys agreed to....!! :)
 
Because the airlines suck. We aren't complaining we are just stating the obvious.
 
I guess I am whining about cry babies crying about an inconvienence to a great job that frac guys agreed to....!! :)

Sure we agreed to it. You've got to take the bad with the good.

Buddy of mine is a VP at a growing company that he makes great money at. Even though he took the job knowing the drive would suck, he still complains about the traffic. That's ok by me. Bitch away, brotha. Next round's on me.

Just curious, Rez. Which fractional told you thanks, but no thanks? Seems like a pretty big chip on your shoulder. If you haven't been told no, then come on in, the water's great. I promise within 3 months you will be complaining about the airlines too.
 
Sure we agreed to it. You've got to take the bad with the good.

Buddy of mine is a VP at a growing company that he makes great money at. Even though he took the job knowing the drive would suck, he still complains about the traffic. That's ok by me. Bitch away, brotha. Next round's on me.

Just curious, Rez. Which fractional told you thanks, but no thanks? Seems like a pretty big chip on your shoulder. If you haven't been told no, then come on in, the water's great. I promise within 3 months you will be complaining about the airlines too.
EXACTLY. See, airline pilots complain about pay, schedules and maintenance. NJA pilots complain about crew food, airlines and hotel points. Join us, see the power of the force.
 
I guess I am whining about cry babies crying about an inconvienence to a great job that frac guys agreed to....!! :)

The worst part of my job is airlining on a full Y Far ticket.

It's all one big hassle.

I think what amazes me the most is how 121 guys continue to put up with the crap on a daily basis while getting so little for it.

Rez, if you wanna "shut it down" on your side, feel free to do so at any time. I, for one, will support your efforts.

You will only help to raise a sinking boat.
 
I left 5 mins early and landed 1 hour late on airways the other day. I didn't mind, it added up to 3 hours of overtime!
 
I never said the airlines did not stink....

I'll say it again since you guys seem to be slow on this one.....

If you agreed to it.... then why are you whining??
 
Cause we're PILOTS Rez. We'd have to turn in our license to Ok City if we stopped.....
 
At my house we call it job security, too. Personally, I like threads like this. It builds camaraderie between pilots from different companies within the industry (and also different halves of the same company...;) ) by focusing on common ground rather than differences.
 
Cause we're PILOTS Rez. We'd have to turn in our license to Ok City if we stopped.....

I must have missed that requirement in the ATP standards.... :)

Liken the FedEx guy that got on FI and complained about having to haul up his luggage on the stairs up to the MD-11 flight deck.... no problem pal... there are plenty of guys willing to do if he doesn't....

And again... getting to airline around from numerous gateway cities in that middle/window seat sure beats having to drive hours to company picked gateway like TEB or having to buy out of pocket airline tickets on SWA, etc..

The point... like the Frac guys... (especially NJA) this FX pilot has one of the best gigs going in aviation.... while many many more pilots have much more to complain about.... REAL issues.... (I know, I know... if I would just apply to Derinda then I can complain too!)

IOW if you are whining about the middle/window seat or hauling luggage up to an purple MD-11.... life is pretty good!

Perspective people!!


Now back to your regularly scheduling sport b!tching!

:)






psst.. NJwife.... what up ;)
 
Liken the FedEx guy that got on FI and complained about having to haul up his luggage on the stairs up to the MD-11 flight deck.... no problem pal... there are plenty of guys willing to do if he doesn't....

Actually hauling your bag up the tower at fedex is a pretty dangerous job. Especially if the plane is getting loaded, wind, or inclimate weather. Many pilots have fallen down the tower stairs.

While there are many people in line to do a job like that... .they aren't there for whatever reason. Much like the canadians do in wood mills, lining up all the guys who want your job as you walk into the mill so you don't question the safety.

Remember they are on the outside looking in. Sure they want the job but they will be the first to complain about the same issues.

Good luck with that.
 
Actually hauling your bag up the tower at fedex is a pretty dangerous job. Especially if the plane is getting loaded, wind, or inclimate weather. Many pilots have fallen down the tower stairs.

While there are many people in line to do a job like that... .they aren't there for whatever reason. Much like the canadians do in wood mills, lining up all the guys who want your job as you walk into the mill so you don't question the safety.

Remember they are on the outside looking in. Sure they want the job but they will be the first to complain about the same issues.

Good luck with that.

Then work to effect positive change.

The FedEx pilots can have someone haul thier bags up for them. Or place them on the freight lift... The last thing Fred wants is a cancelled or delayed flight due to pilot OJI.

The NJA guys can negotiate no window/middle seat or a limited duty day if it is not available...


See... that is not so bad.....much more professional and it sure beats whining like a school girl....
 
Easy to say when your on the outside looking in.

Don't be jealous. Its unflattering.
 
Hey Rez,
The rest of us saw it in the ATP standards. Maybe that's what's holding you back. You need some remedial training in bitchin and whinin.
Helm
 
Hey Rez,
The rest of us saw it in the ATP standards. Maybe that's what's holding you back. You need some remedial training in bitchin and whinin.
Helm


sorry...not my style. Whining is for the weak and powerless.
 

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