Cal ecpected to cave on scope

[AWACoff]

I will not vote yes for any TA that has 70 seat jets, with Continental painted on the side; unless flown by CO pilots.

Funny hearing people casting stones at us on this thread. Lets review:

UA, 70 seaters not UA pilots
US, 90 seaters not US pilots
NW,70 seaters not NW pilots
AA, 70 seaters not AA pilots
DL, 90 seaters not DL pilots
AK, 70 seaters not AK pilots

Even those scabs have held stronger than die hard ALPA members at most airlines, isen't that some $h!t?

Fixed.

 

[flygirlqt]

Girl, let me try to make it clearer. Scab lover/Scab same difference. That does not mean they are the same but they sure think alike.

You see Girl, you are a scab lover too. You've previously posted about how these SCABS you are flying with are really nice guys. I realize you are totally ignorant but these scumbags have proven they will stab you in the back just to pick up that penny they see on the ground. They ruined peoples' lives. Some killed themselves over this. Families fell apart. So you go right on telling yourself that these money grubbing whores are "nice people". Maybe you can cross the picket line next time with your buddies.

What an intelligent and mature reply. The scumbags that have proven they will stab their own pilots in the back also hide behind the facade of the ALPA brotherhood. My point before and now, which is obviously very easily lost lost on your limited ability to reason and differentiate is the entire industry sans the cal pilots have been sold out by ALPA regarding scope. I would say that is very ironic given your post.

Just because I have stated before that it is very concerning to me that when you listen to some of their opinions about ALPA that ring true doesn't mean I condone their actions. I clearly stated that before and stand by that now. Perhaps you are just to immature and ignorant to see the difference? Do I have to type that slower for you or will that ruin your sophomoric attempts to insult me?

Incidentally, the actions you described about families being destroyed have also been perpetrated by ALPA members upon other ALPA members. As far as stabbing people in the back, my father was a rEAL pilot who watched his brother ALPA pilots at Delta step over each other to pick up the slack when Eastern was on strike. So I certainly don't need anyone like you to give me a lecture about unionism.

 

[Kugelblitz]

So the other mainline ALPA carriers that gave away scope and sold out the junior ends of their lists are scabs also?

I'll tell you this, I have flown with more guys that are not scabs that scare me a hell of a lot more than the actual scabs.

Ms., I don't know who you have been flying with, but that is truly the polar opposite of the experiences of the majority of pilots at this airline (regarding flying with scabs). I don't fault you for your ALPA opinions, this is an industry of nihilist.

 

[flygirlqt]

Ms., I don't know who you have been flying with, but that is truly the polar opposite of the experiences of the majority of pilots at this airline (regarding flying with scabs). I don't fault you for your ALPA opinions, this is an industry of nihilist.

A lot of former fmr's and some very junior Captains. Thank you for understanding my opinions of ALPA. Unlike a very select few on this board, you can see and respect there is a difference in opinions.

 

[BID]

"great contract" what does that mean? You guys have a concessionary contract right now. You dreaming if you think you'll make it back.

I feel for the CAL pilots because every time its time to talk money with management the economy is in the tank and oil is spiraling upward.

You know what? you are right, lets just give up right now.

 

[Ex737Driver]

"great contract" what does that mean? You guys have a concessionary contract right now. You dreaming if you think you'll make it back.

I feel for the CAL pilots because every time its time to talk money with management the economy is in the tank and oil is spiraling upward.

I have a dream...............

 

[davessn763]

Unity Pays!

wife-number-five-A-funders

[sarcasm on]Niiice! Please continue to divide our pilot group more, this will only strengthen our leverage![sarcasm off]

Apparently you learned all about unity during your short time at XJT.

signed
wife-number-one-B-funder

 

[jetpig32]

Fixed.

Add CO, 76 Seat (and growing) Q400, not CO pilots?

Why should scope be relaxed on a t-prop that may soon be 90+ seats. (Search Q400x)

 

[Palomino]

Add CO, 76 Seat (and growing) Q400, not CO pilots?

Why should scope be relaxed on a t-prop that may soon be 90+ seats. (Search Q400x)

“Small Turboprop” means turboprop aircraft with an FAA certification of seventynine
(79) or fewer seats.

“Small Jet” means jet aircraft with an FAA certification of fifty (50) or fewer seats.

Our scope keeps anything larger than these aircraft at the mainline level. Thus creating more mainline jobs, more mainline payscales, more mainline retirement benefits, and more mainline opportunities.

Turboprops are great. If CAL finds one that is bigger than 79 seats and wants to fly our passengers with it then I will bid LTP and be paid nicely for it. Sounds like fun.

I have zero issues with the size of the airplane. Sad to say, but if you were to look at our scope section and apply it to 30 years ago then CAL's group would be laughed at. Now we are 'holding the line' on equipment that continues to blur the careers of the profession. The L188s, DC-9s, F28s, F100s of today are now being flown for the same wages 30 years later (without being adjusted for inflation). That has had a dramatic affect on pilot wages across the board from the regional level to the majors.

I hope to see a LTP or a new breed SNB at CAL...with Continental Airlines on the side and a CAL crew steering the ship.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Fixed.

Though still not correct