Atlas going Teamsters

[cfire]

I see that there is a push to go Teamsters at Atlas now.

Also they are still doing that preferential hiring for guys from ATA and Kittyhawk.

http://atlasforteamsters.com

 

[spitfire1500]

I see that there is a push to go Teamsters at Atlas now.

Also they are still doing that preferential hiring for guys from ATA and Kittyhawk.

http://atlasforteamsters.com

Good, hopefully they'll get all those guys back to work.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Does Atlas fly international?

Are there IBT offices globally?

www.iflalpa.org

 

[Cargoav8or]

"Does Atlas fly international?"

I think a small percentage, probably around 99.9%.

 

[unwashed]

Does Atlas fly international?

Are there IBT offices globally?

www.iflalpa.org

Yes, and I don't know, but K4 is IBT and we fly out of CONUS. IBT has about 1.2 plus million members to lean on if things get bad, plus the 32 in Slugger they gave me when I signed up.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Netjet pilots want to shuck IBT

 

[#%&@$!]

Having been both ALPA and IBT my opinion is that IBT negotiates better contracts and ALPA provides better pilot representation when needed. IBT's dues assesment are 25% higher. I think an ALPA carrier would do better in a seniority merge since they represent the most pilot groups. ALPA, IBT, and In-house union all have prosand cons, but they are all better than nothing, and pilot unity goes a lot farther than picking the "correct" union. The energy spent decertifying and switching can be much better spent.

 

[sgu]

The energy spent in this instance will pay for itself in the long run, we are not welcome at ALPA and that is a fact. The sooner we join the TEAMSTERS the better.

 

[#%&@$!]

Of course there are always exceptions and I admit I am not familiar with the situation at Atlas. Sorry if I came across as too righteous. I'd be intersted to know reasons for the divorce if you want to post or pm. Welcome to the IBT!

 

[mushroom]

IBT's dues assesment are 25% higher.

Our IBT dues are 1.56% or so of our monthly guarantee. I seem to remember when I was with an ALPA carrier that the rate then was closer to 2%. How are the IBT's dues higher?

 

[sgu]

Of course there are always exceptions and I admit I am not familiar with the situation at Atlas. Sorry if I came across as too righteous. I'd be intersted to know reasons for the divorce if you want to post or pm. Welcome to the IBT!

All the answers are at www.atlasforteamsters.com

 

[dakotaHC8]

ALPA is hands down the best pilot union around... If you happen to be in the top third of Delta or United.

Otherwise you get what turns out to be a really expensive magazine subscription.

 

[tjsatter]

Airline management, in general, HATES Unions. But they love the Teamsters. Hoffa Junior is a pussie and management lacky and backs union-busting management tactics.

tj

 

[Junkflyer]

Teamsters suck. Looking at Atlas's payscale it seems they are way above the Teamster freight dogs.

 

[cfire]

I think a lot of what is happening is that ALPA has gotten back on the ACMI is the enemy theme and have cut all expenditures and representation for Atlas. Considering that Prater has been unable to "taking it back" from airline management, he has decided to take it from within. Especially with US Air leaving ALPA for their own in house union. Rumors are abound with Continental pushing to leave also.

There is a difference between supporting an ALPA council and just representing them. We are barely getting the latter.

ALPA only just recently put Atlas Air on the ALPA letter head with all the other ALPA councils. Only after a push for teamsters and someone pointing it out in the normal course of rhetoric.

Even more salt into the wounds is the recent top priority of the NWA - Delta merger when Atlas - Polar has been trying to merge for the last almost three years. Both with contracts overdue by years. Of course that is due to ALPA supporting Polar (170 guys) vs Atlas (700 guys) to log jamb the merger process.