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NWA/DAL Merger to be Announced Today

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Like I said I do not see that happening. Any furloughs will probably come before the lists are merged, or off the list where the flying was cut.
You succinctly stated the rub. If Delta cuts NWA flying, backfills with DCI, two or three big management problems are fixed with one move and candidly that fixes a couple of ALPA's problems too. (How to integrate a senior workforce coming off the smallest jet)

Again I say - we need to have some idea of what scope is in the transition agreement. It is important. It needs to be fixed while everyone is at the table.
 
Again I say - we need to have some idea of what scope is in the transition agreement. It is important. It needs to be fixed while everyone is at the table.

Things are very eerily quiet the last 2-3 days. No inside info anywhere.

Something is going on.
 
I will second that.
There are developments. Noting concrete but we the workers must be patient to learn our fate. This time around most of the ALPA folks are unavailable(flying) and it seems that management has a very tight seal on the leaks. No one is around????

They are very aware of scope, and it is being addressed. To what extent I am not sure. There are many ALPA members (from both sides I am sure) that keep the MEC's abreast of all of our concerns. Lets just hope that they are heard.


BTW where is Occam? He was loitering yesterday, but no where to be seen today.
 
Things are very eerily quiet the last 2-3 days. No inside info anywhere.

Something is going on.

Agree. Something is going on...but very little at the ALPA level. Shareholder's meetings coming up, and the Directors are getting the Varsity Arm-Twisting treatment from the non-airline-building shareholders.

Dave is on a pre-planned family vacation right now. The worker bees are still at it.

RE: "BTW where is Occam? He was loitering yesterday, but no where to be seen today."

Torturing noobs in the sim. Bwa-ha-ha!

(rubs hands together in anticipation of giving check rides to DAL guys)
 
Agree. Something is going on...but very little at the ALPA level. Shareholder's meetings coming up, and the Directors are getting the Varsity Arm-Twisting treatment from the non-airline-building shareholders.

Dave is on a pre-planned family vacation right now. The worker bees are still at it.

RE: "BTW where is Occam? He was loitering yesterday, but no where to be seen today."

Torturing noobs in the sim. Bwa-ha-ha!

(rubs hands together in anticipation of giving check rides to DAL guys)[/quote]

Or vice versa... Steeland could get so desparate to get his expiring merger bonus that he sells off your assets and you guys then get preferential interviews - you never know when $millions of bonus money are at stake... Watch Steeland closely.
 
Occam an Evil Sim God?

It is fun to have the Sim Gods be particularly evil at times, as long as it isn't the initial type ride.

Got a rapid descent command from ATC, while hand flying and complying got flipped inverted by the wake button with the spoilers extended and the right engine flamed out at 2,000 FT over JFK in the missed during the last approach of my initial RJ type ride.

Looked back and the LCA was laughing so hard he was tearing up. So, our wise friend Occam is one of those.... :)
 
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Or vice versa... Steeland could get so desparate to get his expiring merger bonus that he sells off your assets and you guys then get preferential interviews - you never know when $millions of bonus money are at stake... Watch Steeland closely.

(sigh)

If Steenland was the guy making the decisions on all of this...I might be worried. Since he isn't, I sleep better.

Speaking of sleeping, I bet you got a lot of it during the "corporate governance" lecture in Econ, eh?

:rolleyes:
 
(sigh)

If Steenland was the guy making the decisions on all of this...I might be worried. Since he isn't, I sleep better.

Speaking of sleeping, I bet you got a lot of it during the "corporate governance" lecture in Econ, eh?

:rolleyes:

Wow, a sim guy who knows everything....... A lot of sim guys are scared to fly, and enjoy the power of the control panel in the sim, but can't figure out why they can't stop the motion in the actual plane. Are you one of those my know it all friend? Anyway, here is an article from Seeking Alpa (?) which has it's own opinion on how this will go down.....



Will Delta Agree to Northwest's Offer Without Pilot Consent?

posted on: April 02, 2008 | about stocks: DAL / NWA


Over the last few days it has been reported that Northwest Airlines (NWA) has been in discussions with Delta Airlines (DAL) regarding moving forward with a merger without an agreement between the companies' respective pilots unions. As noted in previous updates, the tactic of obtaining pilot consent before reaching a formal merger agreement is an oddity, yet it appears to have been somewhat of a necessity in this particular case. Given DAL's position in the industry -- both in terms of longevity and market standing -- the pilot seniority issue is more critical in this deal than perhaps any airline deal in the past. The sheer number of DAL pilots that will be affected by this potential combination makes this deal unique and not in a positive sense.
Thus, attempts to move forward with this transaction without a formal pilots agreement in place seem to be misguided and, in many ways, an act of desperation on NWA's part. Perhaps the concept is to forcibly motivate the pilots into an agreement via reaching a formal merger agreement in the near future. Unfortunately, the original tactic of obtaining pilot consent beforehand has essentially resulted in what appears to be -- at least at this juncture -- an unreasonable impasse.
Again, this publication feels that the pilots can eventually reach a mutually agreeable settlement (as occurs in virtually every airline transaction), but the concept that a formal merger agreement will expedite this is very much flawed. In fact, it could very well result in the opposite outcome desired by the companies.
At this point, it is not believed that DAL will agree to a formal merger agreement with NWA, regardless of terms, while its pilots union remains unhappy with the seniority list provisions. Until the pilots can work out the issue on their own, as originally planned, DAL is much better off rejecting any offer NWA proposes.

Disclosure: We have no positions of any kind, in any security. We are a completely neutral source of research and analysis.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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General:

Kindly edit your post. We monkeys should avoid throwing poo in the general direction of the NWA cage.
 
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Fact is I think that is these boards are any indication of the general feeling of each group; We are getting there. Not as much hate and flame here.
That may change but for now pilots are behaving....
 
General:

Kindly edit your post. We monkeys should avoid throwing poo in the general direction of the NWA cage.

There you go fins, some of the poo removed. The rest is appropriate.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 

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