NWA/DAL Merger to be Announced Today

[FDJ2]

DAL) Rumor that Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) will make a bid for NORTHWEST AIRLS CORP COM (NWA). Bid thought to be in the $14 range

Nu

So NWA is being acquired. Interesting.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

FDJ have you heard anything. Tried calling the reps and there seems to be no one home.

 

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FDJ have you heard anything. Tried calling the reps and there seems to be no one home.

+1; Senior Skip day, perhaps.

No changes in AE or training schedules, FWIW.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

That is what I have hear as well. Fins I am going to send you something. I think that you will get a laugh.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Well it is five o'clock in Atlanta, and no news....

 

[Tanker Clown]

Well it is five o'clock in Atlanta, and no news....

Shocking.

 

[afhercdriver]

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Charlie Schwab is reporting on their site that the deal is due today. Stock swap at $14 share.

Nu

How about posting the link? I just went to Charles Schwab and didn't find anything about the merger.

Jim

 

[ACL65PILOT]

It is password protected.

 

[FDJ2]

FDJ have you heard anything. Tried calling the reps and there seems to be no one home.

Quite a few reps are out flying. With regards to some of the ATL reps I know TP is in SCL and SU is in Johannesburg..

I can't comment too much other than reiterate that consolidation is still a real possibility.

With regards to the often discussed, rarely seen, transaction framework agreement, like I've said before, get use to hearing "that was than, this is now." IMO the best time to maximize our returns on a potential merger has probably come and gone.

If there is a merger it will be difficult to negotiate the same deal.

If there is a merger the timeline will be much shorter than before for reaching a deal.

Management at DAL still gets it that in order to maximize the value of a merger and improve the possibility of its success the DAL pilots will have to support the transaction. We'll see what happens.

I can't comment on NWA management and whether or not they feel it's important to bring their pilots along at the inception of a merger.

We think it is, but IMO, that's between NWA management and NWALPA.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Idiot(s) at it ALL day long

How about posting the link? I just went to Charles Schwab and didn't find anything about the merger.

Jim

AS HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED: IT IS APRIL FOOLS DAY :smash: and the children (or child who hasn't stopped posting back and forth to his screen names all day), are showing what fools do on this day. Similar threads on every board, every topic...just this one is more motivated to talk amongst themselves in an attempt to make the absurd, believable. More DL vs NW bs for the rest of us to be glad we're elsewhere for once.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Good for you. You are free to leave.

FWIW, I read the same thing he did.

 

[afhercdriver]

AS HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED: IT IS APRIL FOOLS DAY :smash: and the children (or child who hasn't stopped posting back and forth to his screen names all day), are showing what fools do on this day. Similar threads on every board, every topic...just this one is more motivated to talk amongst themselves in an attempt to make the absurd, believable. More DL vs NW bs for the rest of us to be glad we're elsewhere for once.

Did you really mean to call me an idiot? Of course I know what day it is. That is why I asked for the link.

Jim

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Did you really mean to call me an idiot? Of course I know what day it is. That is why I asked for the link.

Jim

No, it was not in reference to you, rather the same 2 or 3 screen names that have been having these inane "conversations" with each other about the imaginary "news. " Kind of lost the humor after the first 12 hours of the little boy game.

 

[JAM-BRO]

Your info is wrong. Steenland gets 8mil if he just walks away, merger or not. If he stays he gets 20mil in 4 years, that is somewhat tied to performance. With a merger, I am not sure. Do NWA employees like this? No. I would give him his 20mil and have him walk tomorrow....

I would expect something to happen soon. Steeland needs his lotto winnings - he will sell his soul to the DEVIL to get the cash before his window closes in June. He's really motivated now.... Can you imagine the grovelling he will be doing to ensure his big pay day? "C'mon Dick, please, please, pleeeeeaaaaseeee. I want a bigger lake house!!! Screw the employees. I'll even let you and your kids borrow the lake house whenever you want..."

 

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Voice of Reson:

Everyone knew the original post was a joke, but some serious discussions sprung up in between.

Is this the largest airline merger in aviation history? It has to be close and with 11,000+ pilots involved, it is rumor worthy.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Voice of Reson:

Everyone knew the original post was a joke, but some serious discussions sprung up in between.

Is this the largest airline merger in aviation history? It has to be close and with 11,000+ pilots involved, it is rumor worthy.

8500 after it goes through and the dust settles.

 

[Superpilot92]

Voice of Reson:

Everyone knew the original post was a joke, but some serious discussions sprung up in between.

Is this the largest airline merger in aviation history? It has to be close and with 11,000+ pilots involved, it is rumor worthy.

Even on April Fools day???

 

[dtfl]

Voice of Reson:

Everyone knew the original post was a joke, but some serious discussions sprung up in between.

Is this the largest airline merger in aviation history? It has to be close and with 11,000+ pilots involved, it is rumor worthy.

The REAL joke is someone with a screen name calling his or herself the "Voice Of Reason" on FI.com.

That I am laughing at.......

 

[AA717driver]

Is this the largest airline merger in aviation history? It has to be close and with 11,000+ pilots involved, it is rumor worthy.

AA/TWA had 13,000...for a brief time. TC

 

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9,120 currently flying, more than 20% of the list on furlough. AA717, sorry I did not know.

 

[Noserider76]

AF/KLM says NWA/DL are exploring a "light version" of a merger to offer services jointly but keep flying operations separate and avoid integrating pilot groups.

http://money.aol.com/news/articles/qp/ap/_a/sector-snap-airlines-up-as-oil-retreats/rfid87778106

 

[linecheck]

AF/KLM says NWA/DL are exploring a "light version" of a merger to offer services jointly but keep flying operations separate and avoid integrating pilot groups.

http://money.aol.com/news/articles/qp/ap/_a/sector-snap-airlines-up-as-oil-retreats/rfid87778106

Looks like they're taking notes from the Doug Parker playbook. Nothin' like a good ol' whipsaw to get the concessions management needs. Don't want to fly at that rate?? Guess the other carrier can pick up that route.

Don't think it can happen? Go to Phoenix or Vegas one day and compare US Air blue top aircraft to the new paint scheme.

Get ready for a new chapter in pilot labor relations..

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I do not think that they will be able to do this. DAL has some scope that makes this difficult to impossible.
We have AF/KLM and NWA in the scope section. It defines the code share as well as a few other things.
I think that it is just another ploy to get us to play together.

 

[Jimmy C. Corn]

Somebody on another thread mentioned the rumor of Delta acquiring some or all of NWA routes/assets only. Is there any basis for that rumor?

That would make the SLI problem fairly simple.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

yes, but unlikely.

 

[Redmeat]

Somebody on another thread mentioned the rumor of Delta acquiring some or all of NWA routes/assets only. Is there any basis for that rumor?

That would make the SLI problem fairly simple.

That circulated around NW about a month ago.

The way it (the rumor) was explained was Delta would essentially 'buy' everything from NW (infrastructure-wise) and re-hire all the NW employees.

It sounds crazy but it was a rumor around here none the less.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Wouldn't that be the irony. If we did not take the 9's and a few others would all the pilots come?

Still unlikely.

 

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ACL:

Mike Haber would get busy again if that were to happen and I'm not a Haber fan, at all....

NWA without the some pilots would have parallels with Duke / Spellacy. ALPA's legal representation in these matters has not been the best. These lawyers practice politics more than law.

If I were the pilot on the NWA merger committee I think I would change my name and move to an island in the Southern Hemisphere that does not have phone service. At best, he will be reading more deposition notices than flight plan releases.... a fact anyone in ALPA service during this dogfight should consider.

 

[Noserider76]

That circulated around NW about a month ago.

The way it (the rumor) was explained was Delta would essentially 'buy' everything from NW (infrastructure-wise) and re-hire all the NW employees.

It sounds crazy but it was a rumor around here none the less.

Nobody at DL would/should allow anything like that to happen. We're different companies but we're all ALPA. That would set a terrible precedent and would divide ALPA for years. The rumor was probably regarding the other employee groups, not the pilots.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Like I said I do not see that happening. Any furloughs will probably come before the lists are merged, or off the list where the flying was cut.

The would be more of a paper deal anyways. As far as ALPA is concerned, how the deal happens does not matter. We will be merged the same either way.