NWA/DAL Merger to be Announced Today

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So why aren't we fighting it?

 

[dtfl]

http://www.jagnotes.com/frontpage.cfm?attempts=0

Requires PW.
Can you post?

 

[NuGuy]

Requires PW.
Can you post?

DAL) Rumor that Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) will make a bid for NORTHWEST AIRLS CORP COM (NWA). Bid thought to be in the $14 range

Nu

 

[Cookie Monster]

DAL) Rumor that Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) will make a bid for NORTHWEST AIRLS CORP COM (NWA). Bid thought to be in the $14 range

Nu

Where is the "rumor" coming from? Anyone have any hard facts?

 

[cessnapilot]

what is today's date?

todays date is listed here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools'_Day

 

[NuGuy]

Heyas,

Both stocks up neary 7% already today.

Fasten your seat belts...

Nu

 

[General Lee]

Think about it. If this is an acquisition of parts, or even a merger without the 9's things could get real ugly for anyone on the bottom 20% of this list.

Remember that DL and NWA do not want to have two seperate contracts to deal with, and would rather have harmony. Two seperate contracts (what USAir has) may save them a bit of money, but it also restricts what they can do. There are two different scope clauses at Delta and NWA, with different rules (at DL we approve codeshares for example, and have a no furlough clause for TBKANE and above) Northwest guys still have that provision that states E175s will be restricted if more DC9s are parked. So, it could get messy for them if they try to go ahead without our consent or a new contract. Will a new offer be as generous? Maybe not. Will it be a BK type concessionary contract that we have to take? Nope. They don't really want another USAir debacle. Steenland wants his money, but Anderson doesn't want a debacle on his hands when it is all over. I would be shocked to see Dalpa or NWALPA accept something without No Furlough protection for everyone onboard. They, management, honestly don't want two different contracts hindering their plans. It would be messy. And, we don't have to accept any offer. Remember how the company wanted no fences---so they could move planes around to other bases etc? We at Delta have pay rates for certain planes, and any new ones would have to be negotiated. Same at NWA.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ACL65PILOT]

All true, but given the landscape I can see the current no furlough clause living in the new PWA. Why would anyone what to protect a new hire. It goes against what we as pilots do best: Self preservation.
I hope to God you are correct, but I have little faith in this process.

 

[On Your Six]

I would expect something to happen soon. Steeland needs his lotto winnings - he will sell his soul to the DEVIL to get the cash before his window closes in June. He's really motivated now.... Can you imagine the grovelling he will be doing to ensure his big pay day? "C'mon Dick, please, please, pleeeeeaaaaseeee. I want a bigger lake house!!! Screw the employees. I'll even let you and your kids borrow the lake house whenever you want..."

 

[ACL65PILOT]

well what would you expect.

 

[General Lee]

All true, but given the landscape I can see the current no furlough clause living in the new PWA. Why would anyone what to protect a new hire. It goes against what we as pilots do best: Self preservation.
I hope to God you are correct, but I have little faith in this process.

How can you change it? We can't say "ok, take away the current no furlough clause." That would be pretty dumb. No, they would have to add an additional one to cover anyone past TBKANE. They can't force anything on us. They can not offer a new contract and keep the old ones (plural), but that would be tough on management too. They don't want another USAir. They can offer us LESS booty, but not take away what we currently have. This isn't a chap 11 hearing.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ACL65PILOT]

What I am stating is there is no reason go give something up to further it to the last guy brought on property. As stated last week that nugget was taken off the table.
Leaving it at TK give us status quo. They would just incorporate all of the 01 hires in to it from NWA.

 

[Griswold]

Do you still think there will be an AE in May?

 

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Yes, small one, mostly 777 and the backfilling needed for that.

 

[Griswold]

Yes, small one, mostly 777 and the backfilling needed for that.

Sounds like something to look forward too.