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Canadian regional pay -- prepare to cringe

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One problem with Canada, they would not allow me to register my GTO there. I dont like the place because of it.

To top it off it was most likely made in Ontario!


Try bring fruit accross the border...Apples grown in Canada but sold in NY cannot be brought back accross the border. WTF>
 
No the goat was made in Australia. But end result is still the same.
 
Comes from the locally made monaro. Beautiful car... you should see it wihout the hood scoops.

Guess they don't make it anymore?
 
Comes from the locally made monaro. Beautiful car... you should see it wihout the hood scoops.

Guess they don't make it anymore?
Yes the Holden is a beautiful car, and I do like it with out the hood scoops. However on the GTO they split the exhaust and it makes the back end look better.
 
Why would I cringe?
These people have to live in the socialists republic of Canada. Do you know how much of that pay will be going towards taxes?


Ha ha. I'll tell exactly how much.

In the Socialist Republic of Canada, people who make less than $60,000 pay LESS in taxes than in the U.S. That's because Canadian taxes are more heavily weighed towards the wealthy.

Thanks to George W. Bush, people in the U.S. with lower-to-middle incomes, like, oh say RJ pilots, have had their taxes go up, while people making $120,000 have had their taxes go down. Thanks, GW.

Know your facts.
 
That's still a temporary setback. You're arguing what's happened in roughly one year which is very short sighted. Generally speaking 1 US = 1.4-1.7CAD. At the bottom of our economy we are only equaling theirs.

Nonsense. It's not the bad economy that's cheapening the dollar. If anything, the cheap dollar is helping to PROP UP the economy by making goods we export cheaper.

The dollar is dropping like a rock with flight spoilers out because of the budget deficit and the trade deficit. The budget deficit (read: funding the trillion dollar war in Iraq) means we have to sell Treasury bonds to overseas investors, meaning our dollars are going overseas. Likewise, the trade deficit (particularly oil) means more dollars going overseas.

We'll never see the Loonie at 1.50 again.
 
Ha ha. I'll tell exactly how much.

In the Socialist Republic of Canada, people who make less than $60,000 pay LESS in taxes than in the U.S. That's because Canadian taxes are more heavily weighed towards the wealthy.

Thanks to George W. Bush, people in the U.S. with lower-to-middle incomes, like, oh say RJ pilots, have had their taxes go up, while people making $120,000 have had their taxes go down. Thanks, GW.

Know your facts.
Why not a flat tax? Why should the rich have to pay a larger percentage of their pay? That does not seem fair to me.
 
Perhaps they get paid more because they have to deal with this (copied directly from the link):

azz Capacity Purchase Agreement with Air Canada


Hmmm
 
Not just the taxes, everything seems more expensive in Canada. The price of beer alone justifies the higher pay.
Kanadian Bier is a hole lot mo better than amercican beer........ urrrppppp...... bouyyyyyyyyy.......
 
Nonsense. It's not the bad economy that's cheapening the dollar.
wtf you can't be serious. Where the hell did you go to school?
The dollar is dropping like a rock with flight spoilers out because of the budget deficit and the trade deficit.
THAT'S A BAD ECONOMY.
Sorry but if we had to make the choice to do it all over again I'd still vote to go turn that place into glass. There's nothing failed about it. Nearing 4,000 casualties, while very drastic, is not bad considering military numbers. We haven't lost anything compared to previous wars. It's Russia and Iran that are making us still have to swim against the river.
 
In the support of thread drift and my previous comment where some feel Micheal Moore is right simply because he says he is....


Canada vs. the US

By: Richard Rahn
The Washington Times
April 8, 2004


original article

Have the Canadians found a better balance between the public and private sectors? If you listen to many in the news media and many liberal Democrats, Canada is portrayed as a more ideal society than the U.S. It is viewed as peaceful, prosperous, honest and humane, and a country the U.S. should try to emulate.

These critics in the U.S. say they do not want a European-type socialist economy but would like a relatively bigger government that provides more services than the U.S. government (and lower drug prices and free medical care) -- in short, Canada.

Is it true Canada works better than the U.S.? Let's look at the facts. Historically, Canada had been a bit poorer than the U.S. But in the 1950s, '60s and '70s Canada grew faster than the U.S. By 1976, the Canadian dollar was equal to the U.S. dollar, and real per capita incomes in the two countries and the relative size of the governments were about the same.

However, beginning in the early 1980s, Canada and the U.S. began following different economic models. Under President Reagan, the U.S. stopped the growth in the relative size of government and sharply reduced tax rates, and pursued a policy of price stability and regulatory restraint. The Canadians continued
to increase their relative size of government in terms of taxing, spending, and regulation.

The result is the Canadians now have a government that spends about 40 percent of its GDP (at the federal, provincial, and local levels), while the U.S. spends about 30 percent of its GDP (at the combined federal, state, and local levels). Canada is also much more economically regulated than is the U.S. There are substantial variations in taxing and spending between the Canadian provinces as there are between the U.S. states; hence, the above numbers are rough national averages, which vary from province to province and state to state. Again, the Canadians have achieved a level of government many American Democrats say they would like.

Once the U.S. adopted Reaganomics, it began growing faster than Canada. Now, two decades later, according to the World Bank, the U. S. has a GDP per capita that is more than a third higher than Canadian per capita GDP ($34,280 for the U.S., $26,530 for Canada). These higher real incomes for U.S. citizens translate into better housing, more automobile ownership, and much higher levels of discretionary income and economic opportunity. The U. S. has also enjoyed a consistent lower level of unemployment than Canada since the mid-1980s.

Canada's leading economic think tank, the Fraser Institute, has just published two very provocative studies that detail the relative failure of the Canadian vs. U.S. model.

The first study is "Economic Freedom in North America" (jointly prepared with the U.S. think tank, the National Center for Policy Analysis). The statistical results of the study persuasively confirm "economic freedom is a powerful driver of growth and prosperity and those provinces and states that have low levels of economic freedom continue to leave their citizens poorer than they need or should be."

Unfortunately for Canada, all U.S. states, except for West Virginia, have higher levels of economic freedom than the Canadian provinces, with the exception of Alberta and Ontario. As a result, the richest Canadian provinces have incomes that approximate the poorest U.S. states.

"Government Failure in Canada, 1997-2004: A Survey of Reports from the Auditor General," again by the Fraser Institute, details extensive waste, misrepresentation, red tape, incompetence, program failure, self-service and self-dealing in the Canadian government. The report concludes that: "The main lesson from the facts as assembled by the Auditor General is that governments are not very effective vehicles for accomplishing outcomes. ... Public purposes ... can be accomplished as well, or better, by contracting, privatizing or ceding the activity to the private sector."

Those on the left who want a Canadian style health care system fail to acknowledge it has resulted in extensive waiting times, limitations on treatments, and massive shortages, all of which have forced tens of thousands of Canadians each year to go to the U.S. for needed medical treatment.

And finally, as crime rates have risen in Canada and fallen in the U.S., people are less likely to be victims of crime in New York than in many Canadian cities (despite Canada's oppressive gun control laws).

For those who say they want bigger government and more economic regulation, the results of the experiment are in. The evidence from Canada clearly shows if the U.S. had followed the liberal Democrat model it would have higher levels of unemployment, lower real incomes and less freedom.



Richard W. Rahn is a senior fellow of the Discovery Institute and an adjunct scholar of the Cato Institute.
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Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
 
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It finally dawned on me that the key to living the American dream is to vote, support and vocalize attitudes that go against your own economic interest...Now I get it!!....ugh.
 

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