PIC Time for upgrade

[cargoflyr69]

All I can write is wow.

Those who've had the easiest time entering this profession are now concerned about how "difficult" and "unfair" it is that they be expected to comply with a rule requiring a paltry amount of actual decision making experience...in a 152 no less.

I've seen a handful of students in the past who were somewhat reluctant to get in an airplane and fly by themselves, but I never thought they'd become airline pilots.

For those who are short the requirements, do yourself a favor:

1. Lock your flight school / airline "standards manual" in a safe somewhere...you're not allowed to take it to your local FBO.

2. Rent a 152/172, and get in it without an instructor.

3. Go have some fun and learn how to make good decisions.

4. Get over your ingrained fear that you'll surely die if you don't have a book to consult, dispatch, or maintenance available by radio if a cumulus cloud should find itself on your path or a circuit breaker should pop.

5. Walk away from your local FBO a better pilot. Perhaps the self respect you gained from not looking for the easiest way to get qualified for your job will allow you to leave your backpack in the trunk of your car before you start your next three day trip.

AMEN!

 

[say again]

Maybe they should hire those with some P-I-C time.

 

[dingo222]

This never used to be a problem. Flight instruction is a lost art.

so is looking at boobies bounce in turbulence without getting caught.

I tell ya what, I had to make more decisions flying around in busted up piston singles and twins than I ever have flying turbine powered stuff. It may be simple and bare bones flying, but it teaches you a lot. Unfortunately, more and more of the newhires recently only know how to be students. From wet commercial ticket, to some transition course, to Indoc at xyz regional, to upgrade. I don't think 250 hrs PIC is asking too much. That's 1/6th of the time required to hold an ATP.

 

[777_Jackpot]

Maybe they should hire those with some P-I-C time.

How does time as PIC make you a better captain?

 

[viper548]

You gotta learn to make your own decisions somewhere along the line. When you're sitting in the right seat that's not you.

 

[say again]

How does time as PIC make you a better captain?

It doesn't. I forgot the sarcastic face afterwards!!:beer:

BUT, it would help when it comes time to having them upgrade and not worrying about who does or doesnt have the time.

 

[777_Jackpot]

so is looking at boobies bounce in turbulence without getting caught.

I tell ya what, I had to make more decisions flying around in busted up piston singles and twins than I ever have flying turbine powered stuff. It may be simple and bare bones flying, but it teaches you a lot. Unfortunately, more and more of the newhires recently only know how to be students. From wet commercial ticket, to some transition course, to Indoc at xyz regional, to upgrade. I don't think 250 hrs PIC is asking too much. That's 1/6th of the time required to hold an ATP.

So, if I understand you correctly, I would be correct in saying that if a pilot has 250 hours of uneventful banner towing, that pilot is more qualified to be a Captain then a "student" that has had 60 hours of distilled training focusing on desicion making?

 

[777_Jackpot]

It doesn't. I forgot the sarcastic face afterwards!!:beer:

BUT, it would help when it comes time to having them upgrade and not worrying about who does or doesnt have the time.

I would absolutely agree with that. Paper work... gotta love it

 

[ratherbeflyen]

How does time as PIC make you a better captain?

God, I hope your kidding.

 

[jbDC9]

Yeah genius, because boring holes through the sky solo, in a Tomahawk, makes you much more qualified to fly with an F/O, in an RJ.

How does time as PIC make you a better captain?

I would be correct in saying that if a pilot has 250 hours of uneventful banner towing, that pilot is more qualified to be a Captain then a "student" that has had 60 hours of distilled training focusing on decision making?

Responses like this indicate to me that you're an idiot and you just don't get the concept of PIC time.