NetJets hiring percentage

[-FlyAuburn-]

Just wondering, does anyone know what percentage out of each class is being hired? I read back in December that it was close to 100% but now I am hearing they are telling people they are only hiring about 50% from each class since they can afford to be picky. Anyone have any confirmed info about the recent classes?

 

[fischman]

It is more like 35% as of last month.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

I am hearing they are telling people they are only hiring about 50% from each class since they can afford to be picky.

Lets hope so. I for one would prefer to keep NetJets THE premier company to work for, thus keeping the rift-raft flying for the other guys.

Yes, I know I sound like a "higher than thou" pilot... but the truth hurts, and this industry, like all others has its share of excellent, educated, motivated, team playing professionals who are second to none (the ones I want at NetJets). And then it has the fat, lazy, complaining, terrible non-professionals as well (the ones I dont want at NetJets).

Just my .02
Wolfpack

 

[rettofly]

Lets hope so. I for one would prefer to keep NetJets THE premier company to work for, thus keeping the rift-raft flying for the other guys.

Yes, I know I sound like a "higher than thou" pilot... but the truth hurts, and this industry, like all others has its share of excellent, educated, motivated, team playing professionals who are second to none (the ones I want at NetJets). And then it has the fat, lazy, complaining, terrible non-professionals as well (the ones I dont want at NetJets).

Just my .02
Wolfpack

Let me make sure I understand this post.

Only those pilots who work at NetJets are excellent, educated, motivated, team playing professionals who are second to none.

All other pilots, by definition, are fat, lazy, complaining, terrible non-professionals.

Wolfpack, you might want to open your eyes and your mind. You might even learn that there are some fat, lazy, complaining, terrible non-professionals at NetJets. I'm not going to mention names, but I know a few.

Grow up, fool!

By the way, that's "riff-raff", not "rift-raft". Maybe you should work on your own education before you shoot your mouth off.

 

[btodd77]

I think he was saying that we don't just want a warm body in the seat, but someone that will contribute to safety, teamwork, and overall growth of the company. It is true that there are fat, lazy, complaining, non-professional pilots in EVERY operation, but we would like to keep those limited to those that are already here.

 

[StarHustler]

I think that I understand what Wolfpack is saying, it is just that he is coming across a little harshly. Especially in light of the fact that hiring standards are now tighter then they have been previously and perhaps some of the folks now on NetJet property may not have even been invited up to interview in the present hiring process.

That said, I would think that a good and thorough pre-screening process would limit the candidate pool brought up to CMH to only those that meet NetJets specifically desired pilot profile. In other words, if they bring you up for the interview they should WANT to hire you and it is up to you to convince them not too. Otherwise, it is just a waste of time and money for all parties.

 

[727C47]

6 out of 10 in my interview group got offers in January, they told us they would like to hire everybody provided that they fit the profile, we are all now in class, and loving this place, the best aviation entity I have ever been associated with. motivated? thats putting it lightly !

 

[blueskies8]

3/10 from my group in Jan.

 

[fischman]

Let me make sure I understand this post.

Only those pilots who work at NetJets are excellent, educated, motivated, team playing professionals who are second to none.

All other pilots, by definition, are fat, lazy, complaining, terrible non-professionals.

Wolfpack, you might want to open your eyes and your mind. You might even learn that there are some fat, lazy, complaining, terrible non-professionals at NetJets. I'm not going to mention names, but I know a few.

Grow up, fool!

By the way, that's "riff-raff", not "rift-raft". Maybe you should work on your own education before you shoot your mouth off.

You are putting words in his mouth. We at NJA feel that we are THE fractional to be at. That isn't arrogance, it is pride. (I think we have earned it).

We want the BEST of the best to help secure our future. We are able to be picky with the contract we secured in December '07.

 

[fischman]

I think that I understand what Wolfpack is saying, it is just that he is coming across a little harshly. Especially in light of the fact that hiring standards are now tighter then they have been previously and perhaps some of the folks now on NetJet property may not have even been invited up to interview in the present hiring process.

That said, I would think that a good and thorough pre-screening process would limit the candidate pool brought up to CMH to only those that meet NetJets specifically desired pilot profile. In other words, if they bring you up for the interview they should WANT to hire you and it is up to you to convince them not too. Otherwise, it is just a waste of time and money for all parties.

You hit the nail on the head.

FYI, NJA spends about $2000 on you before you even make it to CMH. They WANT you to succeed during the interview process.

They know about sources like aviationinterviews.com, and ENCOURAGE applicants to read up on the latest. It shows a desire to do well.

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

I fully understand what the NJ guys are trying to say. It is not arrogance, it is pride in their company and what they have worked so hard to build. I for one am very tired of the inconsistency in professionalism of pilots that I have had the pleasure and displeasure of flying with at small time 135 operations. I am ready to work for a company where 99% of the pilots already there are 100% committed to excellence all of the time. That means purposefully following SOPS, regulations, safety protocols, etc. no matter what. That means that no matter who you fly with, you know it is going to be a professional cockpit and a safe flight. I have flown with so many different Captains (and been the Captain) for 135 operations. The CA sets the tone. If the tone is one of laziness, machoism, and a deliberate violation of SOPS etc, it is a miserable experience for the other pilot that is trying to do it the right way.

I am glad they are weeding the guys out that may look good on paper, but who are in the end unfit for an operation such as NetJets. My interview is Feb 25-27. I am sincerely hoping that the interview board will see in me the type of pilot, committed to safety first and then customer service, and that I will be chosen. There is always the chance that I will not be and that is ok, maybe it won't be a good fit for them now or ever. We'll see.

I think some applicants from RJ backgrounds or straight 121 backgrounds are getting turned down because of obvious misgivings about the level of customer service required. If I had to guess it is the HR interview that is gigging most of the applicants. Remember, safety first, but followed very closely by excellent customer service and a creative attitude towards solving owner's problems. Also, if you come off as someone with very little people skills you will probably not get selected.

Good luck to all and I hope to be flying with you guys real soon!

 

[cush]

FWIW 10 of 30 were hired in my class in 1996. 6 eventually went to the majors, and all have subsequently spent at least 8 of the last 12 years on furlough or no longer working for said major.

 

[skiandsurf]

I fully understand what the NJ guys are trying to say. It is not arrogance, it is pride in their company and what they have worked so hard to build.

Good luck to all and I hope to be flying with you guys real soon!

FlyAuburn and all other hopefulls, dont be fooled, this is a great company and job, but we have our problems too. If you come from an airline background, the first thing that you will notice is we have no crew rooms or crew room friendships. Most of the senior guys think that they are aviation gods, when in reallity they couldnt get hired back in the 90s when every airline was hiring. They will tell you that the airlines sucked, but these are the guys that had to... 1)pay for training , 2)move to Columbus, 3) file their own flight plans, 4) get wake up phone calls at all hours of the night to ASAP somewhere. Or go to a regional or major and have a fixed schedule with none of this other bullsh!t.

These are the guys who got hired with a pulse, now that the union has made this a respectable job, the company can be more selective as to who they hire.

Dont get me wrong, this is a great place to be, but dont kid yourself, we do have our share of problems.

Good luck to all.

 

[Go Fly]

Back to the original topic ...

Numbers I heard, and I do mean "heard", in other words - PURE RUMOR!

Receiving around 50 resumes a day, interviewing 5% of the folks sending resumes and hiring around 50% of those interviewed.

That would come out to be about 18,000 resumes received and 450 hired for 2008. That sounds a little high to me. Don't think they are planning on hiring 450 this year but it seems pretty close.

Again, PURE RUMOR. This information is for entertainment purposes only.

 

[c5driver]

Don't think they are planning on hiring 450 this year but it seems pretty close.

We are hiring 450 this year. Good news for those looking to get in.

BTW, 5 out of 11 in my group. Hired in Jan. Good Luck!

 

[wolfpackpilot]

Let me make sure I understand this post.

Obviously you didn't.... Fool? Hmm... now we're name calling?

Let me go get a juice box and my crayons and get back with you...

 

[daneav8]

So far 3 out of 11 hired from my interview group in late January.

I can't wait to start!!

 

[cldsfr79]

Besides looking at large amounts of flight time and seeing who can answer all the fluffy customer service questions, the interviewing pilots who passed the sim ride and everything else should be given one last test before getting hired.

In Columbus, take each prosepective plilot out to a plane with an enormous amount of luggage sitting next to it, the cabin being filthy, and the jepps being three revisions out of date. The test would be to see who cleans the plane the best, loads all the luggage without complaining and updates all the jepps correctly. If they do a great job and can handle doing this everyday, then they get the job.

Some pilots forget that we have to do a bit more than an airline pilot. I'm tired of guys leaving the planes in bad shape.

 

[cush]

Most of the senior guys think that they are aviation gods, when in reallity they couldnt get hired back in the 90s when every airline was hiring. They will tell you that the airlines sucked, but these are the guys that had to... 1)pay for training , 2)move to Columbus, 3) file their own flight plans, 4) get wake up phone calls at all hours of the night to ASAP somewhere. Or go to a regional or major and have a fixed schedule with none of this other bullsh!t.

These are the guys who got hired with a pulse, now that the union has made this a respectable job, the company can be more selective as to who they hire.

....Or were smart enough to recognize that Executive Jet was likely going to grow into something huge and took the gamble to stay and not give in to the big jet complex.

I personally passed on a job with one of the big 5 and know many others that did. This place wasn't great back then. But it beat the hell out of any (or my) former commuter job for pay/benefits and still had a schedule. I am in the top 5% now of NJA and certainly do not consider myself an aviation god nor do I know any who do. (the only one who might have went to NJI long ago.)

Sorry you didn't get here earlier Ski and Surf. But don't be bitter toward those who did.

 

[cush]

and perhaps some of the folks now on Netjets property may not have even been invited up to interview in the present hiring process.

Absolutely true!! But ask any very senior legacy pilot and most will say the same thing! But that's the biotch of good (or bad) timing!