NWA Suspends Hiring?

[The General]

I am positive there were interviews last week, and pretty sure there was another round this week. how worried should one be about a may/june classdate regarding furloughs?

 

[Tanker Clown]

I am positive there were interviews last week, and pretty sure there was another round this week. how worried should one be about a may/june classdate regarding furloughs?[/quote]

I wouldn't quit your current job or burn bridges. You'll be the first to go when the furlough start...if they don't start before you even get there.

 

[123]

Since it is my understanding that they are currently filling classes into June. It would sound like a good business plan to stop interviewing for a while, drain the pool down, allow for updated apps, and start interviewing again later in the spring. Why waste capital on interviewing now, giving someone a class date in June or July only to find out that they have left between now and then for another carrier.

 

[michael707767]

Since when has forward thinking and logic been part of these companies plans? Hire till you furlough.....

Sounds like the Air Force.....recruit, recruit, recruit, oops, RIF, RIF, RIF.

 

[michael707767]

I wouldn't quit your current job or burn bridges. You'll be the first to go when the furlough start...if they don't start before you even get there.

Yeah, listen to Tanker Clown. With his vast amount of experience in the airlines, he knows what he is talking about.

Doesn't the Colonel need coffee?

 

[Tanker Clown]

Yeah, listen to Tanker Clown. With his vast amount of experience in the airlines, he knows what he is talking about.

Doesn't the Colonel need coffee?

Wow, if common sense was common then everyone would have it. The whole idea of a merger is to comgine synergies and cut overlap with the overall goal to raise ticket prices due to a reduction in demand. Therefore, if you are going to cut capacity, then you don't need pilots. While Delta isn't well known for making great decisions, I'm pretty sure they aren't going to pay a newhire to not fly a route that has been cut or not fly a parked jet.

The Air Force, on the other hand, would pay to not fly the pilot...but they aren't in the profit making game. In that respect, they are like Delta.

 

[JohnDoe]

Something else to give you the warm and fuzzies:

Our mec (mainline NW) just sent out an email stating that Compass is opening two new crew bases in April..DTW and MEM. Mainline mec sending that to mainline pilots.....And we care.....why???

By the way, if you didn't know, the compass pilots are represented by the mainline council 1 for those of them based in MSP. Interesting arrangement. Compass flying is replacing mainline flying, and we are representing them......

 

[viper548]

Classes are being filled 3+ months out. It makes sense to stop interviewing until the available classes are closer.

 

[michael707767]

Wow, if common sense was common then everyone would have it. The whole idea of a merger is to comgine synergies and cut overlap with the overall goal to raise ticket prices due to a reduction in demand. .

yeah, there will be some synergies. There will also be routes that as seperate companies only support an RJ, while at the combined company they will support a mainline airplane. Further, Glen Haunstein is licking his chops at the prospects of new international routes that the combined company can support. I predict hiring will slow down but will not stop in the short term. Long term, we may both have more opportunities than we would have at stand alone companies.

 

[Tanker Clown]

yeah, there will be some synergies. There will also be routes that as seperate companies only support an RJ, while at the combined company they will support a mainline airplane. Further, Glen Haunstein is licking his chops at the prospects of new international routes that the combined company can support. I predict hiring will slow down but will not stop in the short term. Long term, we may both have more opportunities than we would have at stand alone companies.

Maybe, but if Asia or Europe have a recession....or the dollar gets strong again, then there is going to be trouble with all your eggs in one basket.

 

[Smarta$$]

Something else to give you the warm and fuzzies:

Our mec (mainline NW) just sent out an email stating that Compass is opening two new crew bases in April..DTW and MEM. Mainline mec sending that to mainline pilots.....And we care.....why???

By the way, if you didn't know, the compass pilots are represented by the mainline council 1 for those of them based in MSP. Interesting arrangement. Compass flying is replacing mainline flying, and we are representing them......

You guys voted for it.

 

[Ridgeback]

Do you really think they will just PARK all of the 68 larger DC9s without replacing them? Really?

Yes, that's the point of a merger, decrease overlap

Give up market share and just replace them (even though they have more seats than the DC9-30s and all of those wonderful CR9s or E175s)? Really?

Yes, Both airlines have said there is too much capacity in the market


NWA said their current hiring takes into account the parking of about 30 DC9-30s this year, and they are still hiring. (or willing to drain their pool).

NWA made that statement Pre- merger

Those larger DC9s will be replaced eventually (maybe MD90s or new 737NGs), but not overnight. And, any agreements in writing will be enforced, unless there is a BK and a judge is watching. Do you think that will happen immediately too? Do you?

Delta will inherit the 76 NEW Large rj's, those are the DC9 replacements.

Yes, our no-furlough clause had a Force Mejeur clause, and it was used after 9-11. In fact, they furloughed a bit too many, and after a grievance many were brought back by an arbitrator. It can be enforced and was challenged and our guys won via an arbitrator, with pay.

SWEET!

Bye Bye--General Lee

People keep forgetting the reason for the merger?

 

[Superpilot92]

I agree with the General (this time that is) The combined carrier will most likely slow down hiring for a while until the plans for consolidation are ironed out and even after they have a defined plan of action, it will take some time to implement (years) The DC-9's will eventually be replaced, not just parked. What will be really interesting to watch will be the dynamics of integration of the two pilot groups, they have the advantage that being both legacy carriers their pilot groups don't have the seniority based problems that the USAirways debacle had. Seniority based (DOH) integration is a possible solution if "pride" doesn't get in the way.
Maybe I'm a "glass half full" kind of guy, but I believe that a great airline could emerge from all of this

Agreed!!

 

[123]

Maybe, but if Asia or Europe have a recession....or the dollar gets strong again, then there is going to be trouble with all your eggs in one basket.

This is such an idiotic post, I am at a loss for words....

 

[General Lee]

People keep forgetting the reason for the merger?

And you are forgetting that there are local politicians out there that will squash a deal if they even attempt to close a base in their local area. That is why Anderson had to assure Ohio Senators and Congressmen that he would NOT close the base. Had he not, they would have raised heck. The key to this merger is that most of NWA's route structure fits in with ours. The sum of the pieces is better than the original. We can attract more corporate customers with the whole world covered than slowly doing it ourselves. And, leaving hubs or abandoning them opens up opportunities for LCCs, which is something we would have done in the past and we can't afford to do now.


Bye Bye--General Lee