Question for ASA Pilots

[fltdspx]

AWWWW C'mon man!!!

Lighten TFU!!!

Dats some funny stuff sometimes!!!

And besides that, from what I've read in the morning reports, you guys get way more than even by completely slammin it to us in writing.

And if you wanna compare voodoo dolls, I'm sure mine has been missing it's head a lot longer than yours!!

I would agree , I'm just trying to say that we are all on the same team so lets all try to get along, now lets get in the huddle come out with a great play.. how about a reverse

 

[scarlet]

Bigger question is that Jr. pilots got conversion lines over senior reserve pilots.=WRONG and I lost $700-1000 and 4-6 more days off...

The company awarded lines to Jr. reserve pilots out of seniority????

Here comes the grievance process..

If they did not have trips because of GDO, they could have called 15-20 people to see if they would rather have a line versus those days off, and leave it up to the pilot. What calling a few people takes what 30-45 mins.?

 

[twott driver]

How about you start with doing a bit of research about which departures use which runways, and how about looking out the window once in while to see which way the airports going? Get simple things like that right, and you may open yourselves up less to snide remarks on the freq...jckts off the south side planned east when the aiport is operating west.... nice.:beer:

 

[fltdspx]

How about you start with doing a bit of research about which departures use which runways, and how about looking out the window once in while to see which way the airports going? Get simple things like that right, and you may open yourselves up less to snide remarks on the freq...jckts off the south side planned east when the aiport is operating west.... nice.:beer:

I have to agree with you on that one but you can't tell me it happens every single time and don't you have a max effort section with the correction data on it for the runways as well as use of the ACARS.

 

[JettBoii]

Being frustrated with flight control/your dispatcher doesn't mean you can be an a!s on the radio. I heard some tool box call Atlanta Radio this evening and ask for the score to a football game.
I am sure there will be growing pains with the new contract and scheduling; bet it gets a lot more ugly before it gets better.

 

[COOPERVANE]

I think we all need to sit in each other chairs for a few hours once a year.

Why cant dispatchers shadow a reserve captain to see how bad his life SUCKS sometimes? See how small descisions affect his day? I think you would be VERY surprised at how demanding this job CAN be!

Why cant we sit in and observe dispatch to see how hard that job can be? I'm positive the job has LOTS more to it than I think.

 

[WalterSobchak]

Why cant we sit in and observe dispatch to see how hard that job can be? I'm positive the job has LOTS more to it than I think.

I can't speak for our brothers at ASA...but I know we welcome pilots anytime. Ask your dispatcher...maybe they can set something up if you have a few hours to kill.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Well, O.K. but I really want you guys to see our side also.

The company should REQUIRE us to shadow each other.

 

[wms]

Pilots can be uncooperative. But there's a sector mgr up there that waits for a pilot to disagree with a dispatcher and then screams at them over the radio. That's totally wrong. And there are dispatchers that try to lead pilots down the wrong road, the flap AD would be one example.

The 200 hour new-hires of three years ago are now upgrading, and can be easily misled by a dispatcher. That's a bad thing in the making. I think there has to be some proactive work at ASA to open the door between the dispatchers and the pilots so we understand the challenges the other group has to face.

 

[fltdspx]

I agree with my brother dispatcher at SkyWest , we welcome all pilots to sit with us when you have time to kill. I believe if we all work together we could get along much better. just remember that Dispatch is different than scheduling, maintenance or ramp tower.

 

[twott driver]

I have to agree with you on that one but you can't tell me it happens every single time and don't you have a max effort section with the correction data on it for the runways as well as use of the ACARS.

I certainly wouldn't say it happens all the time, and yes, we can and do use the max effort section. The point is that when that stuff happens with regularity, it makes the dispatcher look unprofessional, and at worst, incompetent. After that, it's a slippery slope.

 

[fltdspx]

I certainly wouldn't say it happens all the time, and yes, we can and do use the max effort section. The point is that when that stuff happens with regularity, it makes the dispatcher look unprofessional, and at worst, incompetent. After that, it's a slippery slope.

Well I can't argue with that.

 

[John Pennekamp]

I don't use the radio to vent out like the pilots do. We have accountably on our end where the pilots will say just about anything they want and no one can really prove who said what. When we are talking to our flight and someone pipes in with a smart $%^# comment it might seem funny but after 10hrs of hearing that crap over 8 years is a bit much don't you think. All I ask is to be professional on the radio and if someone has a problem with the way things are being handled deal with it in a more professional way and not the coward way behind the mic. I bet there is not one of you who would say any of that crap in person in flight control.

Come, come now. Are we tampy? Is it that time of the month?

Yes, I think a good smart ass comment every now and then really does lighten up the mood. And if you don't you might be in the wrong business. So next time you've pulled a 10 hour shift, and you want to reach through the mike and strangle me for my comments, it's probably time for you to take a coffee break (better make it decaf) and breathe deeply.

Then I'll be there to make fun of you for saying something stupid on the radio when you get back.

 

[CFI2766]

Ironic that the folks we tend to b!tch at are the folks who should be on our side. (Pilots vs Dispatcher, and vice versa.) The folks that we have the biggest gripes about we never see. I've been flying the line over a year now and have yet to see either of the CEOs of my company anywhere near an airplane or even the airport, for that matter.

Are pilots, or dispatchers, perfect. Nope. Doesn't mean that we couldn't work together a bit better, tho.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Well, O.K. but I really want you guys to see our side also.

The company should REQUIRE us to shadow each other.

Yeah. And probably on a day that would otherwise be OFF. Do you think ASA will actually pull you off a trip and pay you to be a shadow? Not.