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SWA may buy Airtran in the future and it would make sense, but Alaska is trying its best to make a case for SWA to buy them instead.

Alaska probably believes it is Shark bait and will be bought in the future. I think they are making a strong case for that certain purchaser to be SWA.

They are rapidly moving to an all 737 fleet. They are active in RNP conversion alongside SWA. They are using the same vendor for wireless, etc.

Looks like Alaska doesn't want to be left out of the dance, and they are hoping to be courted by SWA if you ask me.

AirTran on the other hand is doing eveything but marketing themselves. They may find out that is a bad move. When Frontier is gone in Denver and SWA and Alaska merge, AirTran will probably be the next target, but not likely for a merger. SWA will probably go for the jugular and move into ATL in a big way. but stranger things have happened.

Maybe SWA will buy them both.
 
[. SWA will probably go for the jugular and move into ATL in a big way.

SWA would be lucky to get 2 gates in ATL.
 
That's the problem with you SWA people... Why would you want to "do damage"? That means other people not on your property can't feed their kids or pay their alimony. Remember, we're all in this together... or at least, that's what I thought
 
Activein RNP conversion alongside SWA ??? Are you kidding me? Alaska invented RNP, SWA is picking up Alaska's scrapps on that one. And the conversion to an all 737 fleet has nothing to do with SWA, unless SWA wants to change their entire business plan and add 737 800's and 900's to their fleet. Alaska would fight a takeover from SWA kicking and screaming... And SWA aint getting any gates in ATL anytime soon. AAI can't even get anymore gates right now... Im not saying SWA won't try to buy AK and AAI, its just your reasoning is way out there.... Go smoke another bong...
 
I gotta agree it ain't gonna happen. Tell me one merger or aquisition that didn't turn out badly or difficult, other than Morris...Southwest is doing too well at this juncture to throw it all away with a risky move...
 
I have to agree, why would SWA even need to merge with anyone? Other than grabbing some international stuff what do they need from anybody other than gate space to go any where they want? The only way I'd eat my words here would be along the thoughts of absorbing your competition by buying them out right to get rid of them.....

Where's Lowecure (sp?) he knows everything when it comes to finances! ;)
 
Let me through this out there...

How about SWA buys NWA and parks all the DC-9s? We wouldn't need them. Now we can go International and have access to other domestic markets. This wasn't very well thought out so let me have it.

Jim
 
FlyinGuy said:
No Airtran because we don't want their scabs.
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Might want to take a look at your own seniority list, buddy. Quite a few of them over there.
 
FlyinGuy said:
No Airtran because we don't want their scabs...No NWA because they hate coming to work...
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As a former Tannie and current SWA, I have to say something. Sure there are scabs there, but there are scabs at almost every airline.

I flew with some great individuals during my time there and still keep in touch with them. Sure I flew with a few oddballs but you know what, I have had a few here at SWA already. Never in my airline career have I ever wanted someone on a "No Fly" list until here at SWA, that should tell you something. That being said, just about everyone else is absolutely GREAT to fly with.

So lets not try to bash pilots at other airlines. This is a screwed up industry, you never know who will be in the cockpit with you in the future, left or right seat.

Adios

Bigeasy
 
BigEasy said:
As a former Tannie and current SWA, I have to say something. Sure there are scabs there, but there are scabs at almost every airline.

I flew with some great individuals during my time there and still keep in touch with them. Sure I flew with a few oddballs but you know what, I have had a few here at SWA already. Never in my airline career have I ever wanted someone on a "No Fly" list until here at SWA, that should tell you something. That being said, just about everyone else is absolutely GREAT to fly with.

So lets not try to bash pilots at other airlines. This is a screwed up industry, you never know who will be in the cockpit with you in the future, left or right seat.

Adios

Bigeasy
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Well said my friend....Well said...we should follow your example...(perhaps one of the odd balls you mentioned retired recently)

(perhaps flyinguy is the exception of which you speak) sorry ...couldn't resist....

well...that flyinguy tool did post something ignorant....dang! there I go again...positive vibes!....positive vibes!
 
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The Victors said:
Your right. A 50% increase in pay and bennies would suck. Say, how's that new contract coming?
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No news yet on our contract but thank you for the inquiry. On a side note, do you think if your company (I assume you work for SWA) decides to buy us would we have to go out and pay for the 737 type?
 
The Victors said:
Your right. A 50% increase in pay and bennies would suck. Say, how's that new contract coming?
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So smart guy. SW would buy AT and our biggest problem would be the huge pay raise? Get real. It would probably include selling off of the 717's and many guys on the street or who knows where. I would like your work rules but would rather not go through a merger to get them. Because many, including me probably would get screwed.
 
Secret Squirrel said:
So smart guy. SW would buy AT and our biggest problem would be the huge pay raise? Get real. It would probably include selling off of the 717's and many guys on the street or who knows where. I would like your work rules but would rather not go through a merger to get them. Because many, including me probably would get screwed.
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Thanks to congress, a total screw over by SWAPA will not be happening.
 
Britpilot said:
How did the guys at Morris Air do when SWA bought them? Any left on your seniority list?
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There are every single one of them left that still wants to be here. See the SWA seniority list for 01 JAN 94 and your question will be answered. All that wanted to be here were kept. Stapled, but pay protected. Half of them are check-airmen now and doing quite well. Thanks for your concern on their behalf though....
 
Kharma Police said:
Thanks to congress, a total screw over by SWAPA will not be happening.
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I'm sure the SWA cultists think that the law doesn't apply to their almighty company.
 
Oh it applies I'm sure. Does it say we can't do a 1:5000 ratio integration?

Just yankin' your chain. (unless you're REALLY an Obama in which case I'm serious)
Gup
 
Secret Squirrel said:
So smart guy. SW would buy AT and our biggest problem would be the huge pay raise? Get real. It would probably include selling off of the 717's and many guys on the street or who knows where. I would like your work rules but would rather not go through a merger to get them. Because many, including me probably would get screwed.
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SWA has never put a pilot on the street.
 

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