Concerned Mom Won't Fly with Arabs (who train Marines)

[Flyer1015]

Get off your sill highhorse of political correctness. Fact is that while all Muslims might not be terrorists, give me an instance within the last decade or two involoving terrorists who are not Muslim.....

-Bueller, Bueller

Here you go:

1985 Air India B747 terrorist bombing inflight, 329 dead. Sikh terrorists. Yes, Sikh. Not Muslim.

1985, The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelamof massacre, 146 Sinhalese civilians murdered by these terrorists.

1987, Bombing of Greek Air Force bus carrying American military personnel. A group called 'November 17' claims responsibility.

1987, An assault by an IRA team on Loughall RUC base is stopped by SAS commandos, who kill eight attackers and a civilian.

1990, The IRA shoot down a British army helicopter in County Tyrone, Northern Ireland, near the border with the Irish Republic.

NUMEROUS IRA attacks on civilians. That's terrorism, too.

NUMEROUS bombings in Columbia throughout the last two decades, all drug cartel rivalry, and plenty of civilians dead.

1994, In the Cave of the Patriarchs massacre, Baruch Goldstein kills 29 Palestinian civilians in an attack.

Luis Carriles organized a string of bombings at luxury hotels in Cuba in 1997.

1998, Omagh bombing by the Real IRA (an IRA splinter group) kills 29.

A train derailment in India kills 130 people in the Rafiganj rail disaster. Naxalite terrorists.

NUMEROUS civilians killed by Columbian FARC throughout the years.

2006, The LTTE detonate two claymore mines targeting a bus carrying 140 civilians in Sri Lanka. 68 civilians, including ten children, three pregnant women and their unborns, are killed. Approximately 60 civilians are injured.

The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eealem (LTTE) has killed MANY civilians in terrorist attacks throughout the years.

There's many more if you look hard enough.

The point is you're sadly mistaken if you think terrorism in today's world is isolated to Muslim radicals only.

 

[Flyer1015]

I'm sure you do you liberal POS. Maybe if the screeners and paxs had been a little more paranoid on 9/11, some of this might not have happened. So tell me to shove it. Good for you. Just so you know, you are being watched now...........and a lot of us don't have short-term-merory loss like a lot of hacks on this board.

Hahahaha. The 'POS' namecalling. Says a lot about your character. 9/11 happened with tools that were allowed on planes back then.

Calling me liberal and all, then take a step back and blame your government for intelligence failures that led to 9/11. How certain documents titled "Bin Laden determined to attack within United States" went ignored.

 

[Flyer1015]

Check out "United 93". It's on HBO this month.


Then talk about "paranoia"....schmuck.

I REFUSE to watch a movie set to profit on the events of 9/11, but thanks for the offer!


I agree with PCL_128 that if something truly suspicious is observed, then go ahead and take the right course of action.

 

[PCL_128]

I REFUSE to watch a movie set to profit on the events of 9/11, but thanks for the offer!

I had some of the same thoughts before watching it, but the families of the victims all approved of the movie, and a portion of the profits went to 9/11 charities. This movie really shouldn't be missed. I think everyone should watch it to be reminded of exactly what we're dealing with, especially as members of this profession.

 

[AC560]

Calling me liberal and all, then take a step back and blame your government for intelligence failures that led to 9/11. How certain documents titled "Bin Laden determined to attack within United States" went ignored.

I agree and wonder why more emphasis hasn't been placed on determining why the Clinton Administration didn't do more to chase Bin Laden down. Sadly I think some key evidence in regards to that ended up in Sandy Berger's pants, never to be seen again.

 

[Hvy]

Hey tool, Americans have killed more civilians than 19 arabs. Step away from Fox News and look at the big picture. If you want to treat all arabs the same, then we should treat all Americans the same and i can guarantee you that more people have died from the hands of americans than arabs.

Ahhh....part of the "Blame America First Crowd." Pull your head out of your *** and look at what is going on worldwide. If you're not concerned about Muslims and how a very large percentage of them twist their religion to kill non-muslims you do not have a clue what is going on in the world today. It is not a gentle religion and don't fill your head with the thought that it is.

 

[Hvy]

Hahahaha. The 'POS' namecalling. Says a lot about your character. 9/11 happened with tools that were allowed on planes back then.

Calling me liberal and all, then take a step back and blame your government for intelligence failures that led to 9/11. How certain documents titled "Bin Laden determined to attack within United States" went ignored.

So it's our government's fault that muslim extremists attacked us? Liberal isn't the word that I would use to describe you.

 

[Flyer1015]

So it's our government's fault that muslim extremists attacked us? Liberal isn't the word that I would use to describe you.

I said intelligence failures as a result of incompetence within the government. VERY important documents never got to the right hands to take the right actions. Documents labeled "bin laden determined to attack the United States" should NOT have been ignored. The FBI and CIA, prior to 9/11, did not have info sharing like they should have. It was almost 'competitiveness' to see who could be better than the other, and lots of information never got into the right hands. After 9/11, serious intelligence failures were cited.

Ahhh....part of the "Blame America First Crowd." Pull your head out of your *** and look at what is going on worldwide. If you're not concerned about Muslims and how a very large percentage of them twist their religion to kill non-muslims you do not have a clue what is going on in the world today. It is not a gentle religion and don't fill your head with the thought that it is.

I liked the first bolded part of your post, because that is true. The second bolded part is where I disagree... that bolded statement is true when the radicals twist the religion to suit them. My family doctor is actually a Pakistani Muslim guy, and I would never tell him his religion isn't gentle. "Know thy enemy" , and that enemy are the radical Muslims who twist their religion to further their agendas. That's the enemy. Not good guys like my doctor.

 

[C-17 Driver]

Hahahaha. The 'POS' namecalling. Says a lot about your character. 9/11 happened with tools that were allowed on planes back then.

Calling me liberal and all, then take a step back and blame your government for intelligence failures that led to 9/11. How certain documents titled "Bin Laden determined to attack within United States" went ignored.

You said "Your Government." Are you a US citizen? I don't mean to be disrespectful. You indicated that you lived here since you were a child. If you identify yourself with another country and not as an American citizen, most of your arguments, even if valid, will fall upon deaf ears, because it was our United States that was attacked.

By using the term "your government," you marginalize yourself in the eyes of a lot of the readers and immediately turn it into an Us vs. Them. If you are not a U.S. citizen, how can you expect us to give any credence to your opinion? If the US Government is not yours, may I respectfully ask which government you took an oath of allegiance to and to protect and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic?

Oath of Allegiance for Naturalized Citizens

Oath of Allegiance


The oath of allegiance is:
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

 

[Flyer1015]

You said "Your Government." Are you a US citizen? I don't mean to be disrespectful. You indicated that you lived here since you were a child. If you identify yourself with another country and not as an American citizen, most of your arguments, even if valid, will fall upon deaf ears, because it was our United States that was attacked.

By using the term "your government," you marginalize yourself in the eyes of a lot of the readers and immediately turn it into an Us vs. Them. If you are not a U.S. citizen, how can you expect us to give any credence to your opinion? If the US Government is not yours, may I respectfully ask which government you took an oath of allegiance to and to protect and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic?

By using the term "your government," you marginalize yourself in the eyes of a lot of the readers and immediately turn it into an Us vs. Them. If you are not a U.S. citizen, how can you expect us to give any credence to your opinion? If the US Government is not yours, may I respectfully ask which government you took an oath of allegiance to and to protect and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic?

Make no mistake, I am a US citizen.

You misunderstood me. You called me a liberal POS, so that makes it pretty clear you are on the conservative right. So, by saying 'your government' , I meant the Bush yahoo leading the office today. The Republican led government which righties love so much. That's what I meant by your government. Yes, it is my government, but I was emphasizing the conservative right by saying 'your' government, caues you are that far right/conservative.

Anyway, it would be foolish to think that 9/11 was planned only after Bush came into office. Blame goes around to the Clinton administration as well.

But in *todays* world, Bush has made it far worse instead of making us safer.

 

[Jonny Sacko]

No dude, You're not an American. You're some foreigner trying to change MY country to fit your crap way of life. Just because some lawyer said "You're in" doesn't slightly mean you're an American. I won't be as nice as that other fella, who's flying missions so I can correct you without a weapon! Remember that, and welcome to America. We got our asses kicked a couple of years ago, and won't let ANYONE try to pull that ******************** again!

 

[Flyer1015]

No dude, You're not an American. You're some foreigner trying to change MY country to fit your crap way of life. Just because some lawyer said "You're in" doesn't slightly mean you're an American. I won't be as nice as that other fella, who's flying missions so I can correct you without a weapon! Remember that, and welcome to America. We got our asses kicked a couple of years ago, and won't let ANYONE try to pull that ******************** again!

LMAO!

The difference between you and I?

I was a 'foreigner' from the early 1990s. You (your family) on the other hand immigrated to this country anywhere from the year 1500 to 19xx. Face it, at some point, we were all foreigners to this land known as America. The Native Indians were lied to, broken treaties with, and given diseased blankets as the 'greeting.' They got hosed, no doubt. So look past the history of ancestors settling in America before ripping on others. You 'beat' me to this country by several decades (or hundred-some years). Want a cookie?

Btw, love the attitude! "You're some foreigner trying to change my way of life blah blah blah" ----> even after you had been told I was a US citizen.

You personify the very image that most in the world view us Americans as arrogant.

 

[PCL_128]

No dude, You're not an American. You're some foreigner trying to change MY country to fit your crap way of life. Just because some lawyer said "You're in" doesn't slightly mean you're an American. I won't be as nice as that other fella, who's flying missions so I can correct you without a weapon! Remember that, and welcome to America. We got our asses kicked a couple of years ago, and won't let ANYONE try to pull that ******************** again!

What an ass.

 

[MountainFreak]

Hey Jonny Sacko; with all your tough talk, why aren't you in the OEF/OIF right now? I'll take a guess- your grammar is too poor and the recruiters turned you down. No, I take that back. You didn't have the guts to enlist. F-n moron....

 

[Jmoney]

Tool!

LMAO!

The difference between you and I?

I was a 'foreigner' from the early 1990s. You (your family) on the other hand immigrated to this country anywhere from the year 1500 to 19xx. Face it, at some point, we were all foreigners to this land known as America. The Native Indians were lied to, broken treaties with, and given diseased blankets as the 'greeting.' They got hosed, no doubt. So look past the history of ancestors settling in America before ripping on others. You 'beat' me to this country by several decades (or hundred-some years). Want a cookie?

Btw, love the attitude! "You're some foreigner trying to change my way of life blah blah blah" ----> even after you had been told I was a US citizen.

You personify the very image that most in the world view us Americans as arrogant.

You sir are a complete TOOL, regardless of your country of origin......

Let's all sit around here are make excuses for evil. These guys are evil and they are all muslim.......

Maybe I should be more specific-muslim terrorists shoot schoolchildren in the back as they attempt tp escape the school these "peaceful innocent muslims" have commandeered. They blow themselves up on schoolbuses and in markets and cafes all over the world. These guys even shoved schoolgirls back into a burning school building in Afghanistan because these girls were not wearing their burkas.

You have got to be kidding us by equating all this evil with all sorts of other political splinter groups around and about.

We are clearly dealing with pure evil. There are no excuses for these people.

 

[stupidpilot]

Geez, Give the lady a break will ya? She thought about the safety of her family first and being PC second. She apologized what else do you want?

 

[PCL_128]

Let's all sit around here are make excuses for evil.

Umm, where exactly did he "make excuses for evil?" I must have missed that part.

 

[BigMeat]

The great thing about being an American is that everyone has the same rights. It does not matter where you are from, your religion, your political party, etc. So for all you right wing bubba Bush loving crazies it does not matter what you think. The Constitution protects all. So that means if you step out of line trying to make it hard on fellow Americans your gonna get smacked. You know its true. You rarely hear somone talk like you do in the real world. You hide by your computers and talk like scared children. If you truly believe the way you do Im sure there is a KKK march that would be happy to have your attendance. Oh by the ways the majority of Arabs in this country are Christians. Thats not what Jesus would do is it? No Im not a lib. Im an American that believe in our Democracy. I dont believe in same sex marriage, abortion, amongst other. I do believe that as an American I have the right to stick to my beliefs and not impose them on others.

 

[Rook]

Okc........

Oh how soon we forget, Vne.

Hope some of you guys never need your oil changed, or groceries, or something to eat in Dearborn Mich. Oh and good on you PCL. You're the PIC and did what you needed to do.

 

[Flyer1015]

You sir are a complete TOOL, regardless of your country of origin......

Let's all sit around here are make excuses for evil. These guys are evil and they are all muslim.......

Maybe I should be more specific-muslim terrorists shoot schoolchildren in the back as they attempt tp escape the school these "peaceful innocent muslims" have commandeered. They blow themselves up on schoolbuses and in markets and cafes all over the world. These guys even shoved schoolgirls back into a burning school building in Afghanistan because these girls were not wearing their burkas.

You have got to be kidding us by equating all this evil with all sorts of other political splinter groups around and about.

We are clearly dealing with pure evil. There are no excuses for these people.

PCL 128 pointed it out, and I will reiterate that I have NOT made excuses for evil!

Multiple people had asked about terrorism related activities in the last two decades caused by someone other than radical Muslims, so I listed some.

All the heinous acts you listed are sad. But Muslim radicals aren't alone. Research yourself and you will find many groups (like the IRA and the LTTE) have killed many civilians using methods similar to radical Muslims. Terrorism is terrorism, and it is not limited to one race, religion, or creed of people.