ALPA Signs off on Age 65

[Tejas-Jet]

My question is, will our pilot medicals become 'real' medicals now? That could thin the herd, mentally and physically.

If you are not getting a "real" medical now...then you need to find a new AME. Dr Tilton, the Federal Air Surgeon has already stated that there will be no change to the current medical standards.

After all...you've already got a bunch of over 60 pilots with 1st class medicals. They do all kinds of flying. And that is the FAA's database.

Write your congressman about safety...and he calls and asks the FAA...and they respond with their data.

 

[AA767AV8TOR]

Guys,

This was always about the senior guys looking out for themselves and eating their young. What they couldn’t win at the negotiating table, they have now raided the careers, earnings, and retirements of their younger crew members. Prater was always a wolf in sheep’s clothing on this issue.

Sorry to see ALPA cave on this issue. I just hope our safety isn’t jeopardized over this blatant money grab by the senior guys. To those stuck at the regional’s or throwing gear – enjoy your positions for the next 3-5 years, your seniors just screwed you.

BTW, your elder’s also just solved management’s pilot shortage problem for the next five years. Guess what happens when no shortage exists – you guessed it, wages stagnate.

AA767AV8TOR

 

[Tejas-Jet]

ICAO's most restrictive rule: no worse than uncorrected 20/40 after age 55. That's what I've heard anyway; How many of you'all got that

...and from what I've heard, the biggest difference in the ICAO physical is that they actually have to put you on a scale to get your weight. Thats about it...

 

[AA767AV8TOR]

If you are not getting a "real" medical now...then you need to find a new AME. Dr Tilton, the Federal Air Surgeon has already stated that there will be no change to the current medical standards.

Tejas Jet,

That will quickly change with the first accident of someone over age 60. The current class I is a joke and you know it. They couldn't tell you if you were going to drop dead the next day.

AA767AV8TOR

 

[GuppyWN]

The seniors are not screwing the juniors. It's your elected representatives on the BOD. Those are the gentlemen that went against popular vote. Get a petiton and recall their asses if you're not happy with the decision.

We here at SWA had a recall vote against our elected Secretary Treasurer last year. He quit the day before the voting closed.

I suggest you guys get the pens out and vote!

Is there precident for your BOD to go against the popular vote? If not, i'd say this should be a slam dunk with a recall vote.

Gup

 

[AA767AV8TOR]

There needs to be a massive movement to recall Prater. It needs to start today.

Just how does the MEC go against the wishes of the majority?? Is this the ruling by minority?? Prater’s Blue Ribbon Panel was a fraud.

AA767AV8TOR

 

[Dharmesh1231]

With the age 65 rule going into effect....this is definitely going to stagnate the pilot profession for another 5-8 yrs. There won't be any movement, any upgrades, any hiring and the windows will surely close for the younger guys aspiring to move up. Now I can be a gear throwing bitch a little longer. My dream has been fulfilled....yay!!!

 

[Flopgut]

So what's the "smart" thing ALPA should do for its members? Should ALPA fight a futile battle from the outside or recognize reality as a Union and work FROM THE INSIDE to enact governance that the ALPA members want?

And to the guy who said that ALPA-PAC can kiss his donations good-bye because he's obviously a "one-issue" person, a pro-cabotage aviation administrator in the EU just cheered. That will teach ALPA!!

If any pro-cabotage EU administrator is chreering it's because he/she just figured out how to get ALPA to not resist a cabotage debate: Simply make it fiscally rewarding to Prater's ALPA senior minority and he'll sell out the whole enchilada!

If he tells you battling cabotage (for instance) is futile are you going to believe him? Are you going to believe he's representing you while his pockets overflow and yours are sucked dry?

Where are we going to make a stand against this sort of representation guys? It won't take too many issues settled in this manner and we'll all be done.

 

[Flopgut]

...and from what I've heard, the biggest difference in the ICAO physical is that they actually have to put you on a scale to get your weight. Thats about it...

Yeah well...at this point that might make me one of the luckier ones?!

Seriously, I eat my weight in sugar and grease everyday and I might still pass a tough medical. If this eyesight requirement past age 55 is at all true, then that triathelete I flew with last month that wore cheaters in the dark, is out. I'll be the first to say that aint fair.

 

[Flopgut]

The seniors are not screwing the juniors. It's your elected representatives on the BOD. Those are the gentlemen that went against popular vote. Get a petiton and recall their asses if you're not happy with the decision.

We here at SWA had a recall vote against our elected Secretary Treasurer last year. He quit the day before the voting closed.

I suggest you guys get the pens out and vote!

Is there precident for your BOD to go against the popular vote? If not, i'd say this should be a slam dunk with a recall vote.

Gup

I hate to admit it, but this SWA guy is right!

OK guys, somebody other than me is going to have to start calling national and raising he!!

Any other CAL guys want to get started recalling our guys?

*I think the big precedent here is that usually these EB votes are unanimous.