Dangerous Capt.

[ShyFlyGuy]

Maybe we shouldn't be worried about him, we should be worried about you not having the balls to stand up to this guy. One you say he hit you, Are you a woman. Two, all this stuff he has done and you still fly with him I question your character, (he for sure should not be in this line of work if this is how he is) but for you to keep allowing this to happen is a weakness on your part. Again the fact that he hit you and you have done nothing about it makes me question you. In the end quit and go somewhere a little better.

It was an open handed slap on the chest. I have threatened, mid-flight, to get up and leave the flight deck. He would have to declare an emergency and the FAA would pull the tapes. I decided against it, obviously.

Shy

 

[Freight Dog]

He hit you?

Wow... ever think about standing up for yourself to this jackass? The minute he'd hit me would be the last leg he would ever fly in an airplane. I'd make sure of that.

You should have declared an emergency, not him. Assaulting a crewmember is a serious offense. I don't think this guy would ever be allowed in an airplane again.

 

[BenderGonzales]

Vote with your flight bag. Next landing you walk off the trip. Call scheduling and tell them to find another FO. Yeah you'll get a call from the chief pilot. Thats when you tell him that you will not tolerate physical violence in the cockpit from a co-worker.

 

[Chest Rockwell]

With all due respect to Jim, I think this crosses the line for going to the chief pilot first. If it is an attitude situation, go to prof. standards. If he is to the point that you wouldn't put your family on the airplane with him/her, I think that you have no choice but to go to pilot management. You are doing noone a favor by not doing so.

Pilots are expensive to hire and train. Most companies will give them a reasonable chance to correct his/her behavior.

 

[m80drvr]

One strike you're out.

If the dude hit you I cannot for the life of me think of a reason why you have flown another leg with this Jack@ss. You should have finished up the leg, told him that you will not accept violence in the cockpit and that you will never fly with him again.

On the way out the door mention that if he ever lays a hand on you again the he will be left with a bloody stump and a broken nose.

 

[B1900FO]

Shy,

Tough position.

Ask yourself this. Would you or any FO allow him to get into a situation where something could be wrecked?

The point is, if you cannot do anything about it (i.e. CP won't listen, etc) then be the captain. Pay attention to everything he does and be ready to correct him. If necessary, take the airplane from him (i.e. slam on the brakes when the a/c starts rolling after he forgot the parking break, scream abort when he lets go of the throttles and swerves to the left, etc).

Also, strength in numbers is the key. Show up in the CP's office with a few other FOs, CAs and FAs and then maybe he will begin to listen. Letters and such will no longer suffice, since the CP can ignore it and throw it away. When there are 12 employees standing in his room, however, he will listen.

I wish you the best of luck. Keep us posted!

 

[BenderGonzales]

Nope. No threats. No violence. Vote with your feet. Dont give him any ammunition to use against you.

Be polite. Be firm. After landing collect your belongings, get off the airplane, call scheduling and explain to them that you will not fly with this individual again but you would be happy to be rescheduled on another trip.

Do not explain anything to the scheduler. If they want details ask to be transferred to a chief pilot or, (perhaps better yet) a director of safety/standards.

 

[Nindiri]

All this tough talk is nice, but not always realistic. For all we know, the capt has friends higher up in the company protecting him. Whatever the case, it's a tough situation for people like the thread starter who have little protection from the company.

When I read threads like this one, I am so glad to have union protection.

 

[Mach8Forest]

[quote=ShyFlyGuy;1272734]Gentlemen,

He has hit his FOs on numerous occasions (that's plural, he's hit me and several others).

• Tell the teacher! Maybe he will not be able to go out at recess!
  Jesus you really don’t know what to do? Where did you get all your hours Romper Room!
  Mach8

 

[ACT700]

I'm glad you posted your concerns on this site. That was the smartest thing you could have done.

Don't worry, it will be all right from here on out. We'll take care of all your problems.

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